We lost a lot of images on this site.

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by ldhair, Feb 14, 2021.

  1. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    Fortunately, I was one of those who didn't fall for the Photobucket spiel 15+ years ago. I decided to buy ACDSee and host all of the photos on my computer.
     
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  3. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    Can anyone say TIF? I remember when I got my first point and shoot and all the images were in the TIF format. Then everyone did away with it and I had to reformat a very extensive library to JPEG. It's always a good idea to have a back up plan when things like this can and do happen. Backing up photos on CD's is not a bad idea if you do not want to go to the effort of a secondary external hard drive. All of my photos are one external hard drive and all my music on another separate hard drive.
     
  4. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Oh, the raw footage is still there, and easily transcoded into something modern. It's just extra work. I don't remember how much work I'd done editing or organizing things, and I'm hoping I can find a machine old enough to tell me.f

    I'm of two minds about free software. I love the idea in principle, but it often seems that proprietary formats are much better supported, even for the long haul. Yes, all the information about free formats is public -- but "all you have to do is write your own transcoder from the specification" isn't really a lot of help. :rolleyes:
     
  5. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    You betcha. I spent years working with medical images that were 16 bits deep where lossy compression was out of the question. TIFF all the way. But you wouldn't want to serve it up in a Web page, you'd want to convert it first. Especially back when "broadband" meant 1.5 megabits/sec.
     
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  6. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Oh, I'm pretty sure they will. Like I said, they aren't lost, it's just that CoinTalk is giving bad directions to retrieve them. It's possible to translate them into good directions by hand, but it'll be better when CoinTalk gets straightened out.
     
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  7. cplradar

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  8. cplradar

    cplradar Talmud Chuchum


    The current format for CAT Scans is a huge problem because the format is propretary. You can still read tif files without trouble. I save things in tif format when I want to preserve all the details forever.

    Otherwise, PNG format works.
     
  9. cplradar

    cplradar Talmud Chuchum

    well, ACDSee is not necesary. Nearly every graphics software has a means of organizng images on the hard drive. Images on the internet are JUST Images on a hard drive that is connected to the internet with a webserver.
     
  10. Maxfli

    Maxfli Well-Known Member

    Nobody did away with TIFFs. Their use is very common, particularly in the printing industry.
     
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  11. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    Sorry, I did not mean they had been gotten rid of all together. It's just that many sites you would want to use them on do not accept the format anymore. Trying to sort out which sites will accept them and which don't made it difficult so I just migrated everything. That old camera still works well to this day and is great for close ups in and outside.
     
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  12. kanga

    kanga 65 Year Collector

    All of the older images of mine that don't show any more are hosted elsewhere.
    I'm VERY confident in that site.
    When CoinTalk does the fix, all those images will be back (I guess).

    In the meantime I've more or less learned how to deal with the new process although I consider it a bit clunky.
     
  13. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Correct.

    I would also add that anyone who does not have a personal saved copy of images posted using the Image icon, and you own that picture, you can get one. Simply use the method described by Jeff above, and when the image becomes visible, simply right click on it and save it.
     
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  14. John Skelton

    John Skelton Morgan man!

    I'm tossing most of my old VHS tapes, since in the early days, when blank tape cost $10/tape, I recorded mostly TV shows and movies. I have only 15 tapes of home movies that I had converted to DVDs some time ago. I would have had more, but didn't want my son to grow up thinking his dad was a camera.

    Before our Hawaiian vacation, I bought a smaller camera, but didn't know I had a choice in the recording formats. I have yet to figure out how I can change it so I can put it on a DVD.
     
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  15. John Skelton

    John Skelton Morgan man!

    I have scanned old pictures in the TIFF format for genealogy purposes. They do take more memory, but there's no loss of details if you move the image from one place to another.
     
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  16. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Well, if you just move the image from one place to another, there's no loss with any format -- copying files is always lossless, unless you get an error during the transfer.

    When you open an image, your computer translates it into an array of pixels, and that's what gets displayed. When you save that array of pixels as a JPEG, it gets lossy compression -- that is, some of the data is blurred or smeared. Next time you open it, you don't lose any further information, but the image you get isn't a perfect copy of the one you saved. And if you make any changes to that image and save it as a JPEG again, it gets further smeared.

    When you save an image in TIFF format (or any other lossless format), it might get compressed, but only in a way that preserves all its data. So, when you re-open that TIFF file, you get an EXACT copy of the original thing you saved. If you edit it, then save it as TIFF, no information gets lost, other than whatever you changed while editing.
     
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  17. Chris N

    Chris N New Member

    Hi, just joined and I am not seeing a button to create a thread. How do I make a post?
     
  18. Spark1951

    Spark1951 Accomplishment, not Activity

    @Chris N ...be patient...it takes a while for the servers to see all the new data, you should be able to post in a day or so, if not, contact a moderator...Spark
     
  19. Evan Saltis

    Evan Saltis OWNER - EBS Numis LLC

    Take a look at VLC if you haven’t. I’ve found that it works much more nicely than the QuickTime player apple uses.
     
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  20. Chris N

    Chris N New Member

    Ok, Thank you!
     
  21. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Yes, VLC is a treasure. I wish it had been further along when I held a job that involved a lot of video generation and reformatting. At that time, though, QuickTime Pro (RIP) was able to do everything I needed.
     
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