Five star Generals Program

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  1. charley

    charley Well-Known Member

    It is interesting, from an historical context only, that General Eisenhower was, in his early career, a clerk for General MacArthur,
     
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  3. johnmilton

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    MacArthur graduated #1 in his class at West Point, and at the time of his graduation put together the best record at the school up until that time. His father, Arthur MacArthur, was also a Congressional Medal of Honor winner, which didn't hurt his chances for moving up given his West Point record.

    There have been only two father and sons to win the Congressional Medal of Honor, MacArthur and his father and Theodore Roosevelt and his son, Theodore Roosevelt, Jr. TR got his award many years after he died.
     
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  4. furham

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    The criteria for winning the MOH has changed significantly in the last 160 years. Arthur MacArthur would never qualify using today's standards.
     
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  7. green18

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    He did nothing in the way of building up US air defenses (even after advised to do so)........we were sadly lacking in air power and experienced fighter pilots. He had to have known that the day of doom was coming.
     
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  11. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    I know he was.........still don't move me an inch. He gave up his command and left his men behind knowing of the consequences they faced.
     
  12. whopper64

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    You are correct that he was ordered to leave. The spirited defense would have been much better if McArthur had not lost almost all his planes because he left them like sitting ducks on the ground, even though he had advance knowledge of the Japanese coming by air. Even though a good general in most respects, he was also very vain. His famous quote when returning to the Philippines started "I have returned", not "we have returned".
     
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  13. CHARLES GINETTO

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    FDR was commander in chief. Mac Arthur was his subordinate. Subordinates obey orders They don't ignore them.
     
  14. CHARLES GINETTO

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    When he left the Philippines he said: "I shall return."
     
  15. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Just like at Nuremburg.......... devil.gif
     
  16. CHARLES GINETTO

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    You're comparing Mac Arthur to the NAZI war criminals. Get real!
     
  17. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Ok, simmer down.
     
  18. CHARLES GINETTO

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    Simmer down? You sound like Arthur Dietrich in one of Barney Millers episodes.
     
  19. charley

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    This is a failure of knowledge of history , and is debunked by the first person writings of those that witnessed and lived and experienced the history.

    It is not a matter of I believe this and you believe otherwise. It is not a situation of I think he was an excellent commander and you don't.

    The definitive history settles that. You are of the opinion he abandoned the troops. You have been referred to the history that factually concludes you are incorrect.

    A starting point in this latest opinion that you have...read the history of the U.S. Navy Carrier fleet in the Pacific and commentary of available forward based land based air assets and the state of air operations in the Philippines, by the commanders of the Carriers. The lack of readiness to supply MacArthur what he asked for....not what he was advised to ask for and ignored it....is clearly explained.

    It is readily available on line via and courtesy of the U.S. Naval Academy . The quote you posted, I am familiar. What you did not do was attribute the quote.

    I am starting to wonder if you are fully aware of the the dates and period of the Philippines invasion by the Japanese forces, and the dates compared to the entry of the U.S. into the war.
     
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  20. charley

    charley Well-Known Member

    Yes, he did, and he did.
     
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  21. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Sod off
     
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