I Need Help With This Vespasian

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  1. Numisnewbiest

    Numisnewbiest Well-Known Member

    The auction has this listed as a RIC 583, and I can't even find a RIC 583, and the closest I can get is RIC 589 but it's with a laurel crown and this coin is radiate. In fact, I can't find any COS IIII Pax August with a radiate crown. Any idea what RIC number this is?

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  3. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    RIC 589 Vespasian. AE As. AD 73. IMP CAES VESP AVG P M T P COS IIII CENS, laureate head right / PAX AVGVST, S-C, Pax standing left, leaning on column, holding caduceus and branch. RIC 589; Paris 655; Sear 2359 var (bust type).

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  4. Numisnewbiest

    Numisnewbiest Well-Known Member

    Thank you! I was moving quickly on Wildwinds and didn't look at the photo. Their description calls it laureate, when it's radiate.

    Thanks!
     
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  5. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    Yeah I think the radiate is the var (bust type) part they list.
     
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  6. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    It's a dupondius, RIC 583, frequency rating 'rare'.

    Nice coin!
     
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  7. furryfrog02

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  8. Numisnewbiest

    Numisnewbiest Well-Known Member

    I know it's not in the best shape, but I was really drawn to the portrait - I love the intensity of his look.
     
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    Numisnewbiest Well-Known Member

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  10. dltsrq

    dltsrq Grumpy Old Man

    For those who may be wondering about the significance of radiate vs laureate portraits, the radiate crown typically (but not always) signifies a double denomination (e.g. 1 dupondius = 2 asses).

    By the way, there are two editions of RIC Vol. 2 with different numbering. I have only the original edition in which the op seems to be 541a, citing Cohen 306 and a cast in the BM. 583 would be the number in the current (2007) edition.
     
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  11. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    Generally, dupondii are radiate and asses are laureate during this period. On the rare occasions where there is doubt look at the metal: yellow = dupondius, copper = as.
     
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  12. cmezner

    cmezner do ut des Supporter

    A different PAX AVG; this one is RIC 1143. Don't know if rare, but if I have one it isn't:cool:

    Æ Dupondius, Gallia, Lugdunum, 71 AD
    28 mm, 12.933 g
    RIC² Vespasianus 1143; Cohen 300;

    Ob.: IMP CAES VESPASIAN AVG COS III Radiate head right; globe at point of neck
    Rev.: PAX AVG Pax, draped, standing left, sacrificing out of patera in right hand over lighted altar left, holding caduceus and branch in left hand; S C across field

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  13. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Here is a SINISTER VESPA DUPO:

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    RI Vespasian 69-79 CE AE Dupondius Felicitas stdg caduceus cornucopia sinister left
     
  14. Numisnewbiest

    Numisnewbiest Well-Known Member

    Thank you guys for your help with this coin. I did end up winning it today, so I'm pretty happy about that. Now to wonder how efficient shipping from Poland is.
     
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