Morgan 1895-S Assumed VF?

Hi!

Based on these images alone, do you think it could get a straight grade?

Thanks a lot for any comments!

 

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No chance at straight grade. VG/F details harshly cleaned.

 

Looks cleaned to me, VF is not a bad thought even with those photos.

 

It has some hairlines and the color does not look original. I don't think that it will grade. The sharpness grade is on the low end of VF.

 

Just so we're clear for us novices...where are the hairlines and/or other evidence of cleaning you guys are focusing on ? Where's the wear ?

 

I think they are most obvious on the obverse. Look at how the light is reflecting...you see tons of little lines as if someone has rubbed the coin with a cloth. They are on both the fields and the devices.

 

@GoldFinger1969 Scratches in the fields and wear on the wings/breast . How about wear in general ( flatness in hair) areas .

 

I personally think VF is generous for this coin. I wouldn't say any better than F details.

 

It would be far better to see the coin if not in the 2X2.

 

No it wouldn't straight grade and if by chance it did the grade itself is too low to consider grading.

 

No it won't straight grade not worth getting certified but its still a much harder to find date and worth a hunk of cash.

 

No to a straight grade. Cleaning shows in fields and on devices with dirt trapped in the smaller crevices. Numismatic News price guide pegs this at $700.00 in Very Fine 20. (straight graded).

 

I did see them, just wanted to double-check with experts more familiar with Morgans.

I might be stupid or something....but why does cleaning gently with a cloth (at least today's cloths) leave hairlines and other damage ? Silver is pretty hard, isn't it, unlike gold ? If you're gentle, unless you're using a Brillo pad, why does the faintest cleaning leave hairlines and other marks ?

 

Just sold on eBay for $350.00

 

They'll slab it and it is marketable but it won't straight grade, it will details grade.

 

Why do they use the word "Details" ?

What's being detailed ? I never understood why that signified a problem coin.

 

Signifies a problem coin but fits easier on the slab.

 

I'm just saying that's the treatment they're going to give it. They used to not even give them a grade when they detailed them. They switched that when the market caught on they're full of themselves, the coins are marketable.

 

They used to put detail/problem coins in what we call bodybags the coins was doomed and cursed.

 

Cloth is abrasive...most things are. Metal surfaces tend to be prone to changing when rubbed with abrasive items. That's basically how polishing works...you use a finer and finer abrasive compound until metal is polished. But with coins this results in an un-original look and is considered damage to collectors.