Over-Stamped 1876 Seated Liberty Half Dollar: W.T.S.K

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  1. wlwhittier

    wlwhittier Peripheral Member

    Pawing thru misc silver coinage yesterday, hoping to find some plain stuff to make a quick buck on when the white metal again gets to $30...found this oddity. The only thing Google has on those initials is a Christian radio station somewhere in the southeastern US.

    Have any of you any wisdom about what they might signify?

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    Please note that there are only periods after the first 3 letters. Each of those letters appear to have been individually struck.

    All comments welcome, of course...and thanks! wlw
     
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  3. The Eidolon

    The Eidolon Well-Known Member

    This is a bit of a stretch, but the letters are a bit similar to a Masonic code phrase.
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    "HTWSSTKS" allegedly stands for: "Hiram, Tyrian, Widow’s Son, Sent to King Solomon." I don't know that there's any relation, but they have a lot of letters in common, so I wonder if it might be some other Masonic shorthand.
     
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  4. wlwhittier

    wlwhittier Peripheral Member

    An excellent conjecture...and there is an elder Mason of my acquaintance who will be happy to advise on it! Thank you!
     
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  5. 2x2 $averKrazy

    2x2 $averKrazy Hopelessly coined in

    I believe those are referred to as counter stamps , if I'm not mistaking,
     
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  7. Robert Ransom

    Robert Ransom Well-Known Member

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  9. wlwhittier

    wlwhittier Peripheral Member

    Very Nice, $averKrazy...and I believe your nomenclature is correct. Thanks!
     
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  10. 2x2 $averKrazy

    2x2 $averKrazy Hopelessly coined in

    Break out the Funken Wagnalls, I had to look that one up, your great
     
  11. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder Supporter

    Anybody have a copy of Brunk's book on counterstamps?
     
  12. wlwhittier

    wlwhittier Peripheral Member

    Hi...I'll probably PM BRandM with a pic, and offer it. Thanks!
     
  13. BRandM

    BRandM Counterstamp Collector

    Just someone's initials I'm sure. It wasn't unusual to omit the period from the last initial as it represented a surname.

    There are thousands of initials-only counterstamps which are nearly impossible to identify for obvious reasons. This is the reason that Brunk rarely listed them in his reference. Struck on a nice coin though. Thanks for posting it.

    Bruce
     
  14. mike estes

    mike estes Well-Known Member

    maybe a counter stamp of some sort. nice pictures.....
     
  15. wlwhittier

    wlwhittier Peripheral Member

    Thanks, Bruce...that makes perfect sense! I'll mentally append those initials with a catchy string of 19th C male names...and drop it back into the obscurity from whence it emerged. There are, I'm sure you'll agree, more pressing matters upon which to squander what limited time remains. wlw
     
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  16. wlwhittier

    wlwhittier Peripheral Member

    Thank you, Mike! wlw
     
  17. BRandM

    BRandM Counterstamp Collector

    With only initials your chances of attributing one is next to impossible. If yoy have initials (first and middle name) and a last name spelled out at least you have something to go on. Nearly 100% of counterstamps in the 1800s used initials in place of first and middle names, so if you have a J. Brown for instance you would start with the most common first names of the time starting with a J. In those days it would be either John, Jacob or James. Initials G.W. were often George Washington, B. F. Benjamin Franklin, etc. Many parents named their children after founding fathers or other famous people. It's fun researching this way but very time consuming.

    Bruce
     
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  18. wlwhittier

    wlwhittier Peripheral Member

    Obviously, good sir, you have devoted considerable effort, over long time, to your niche interest. Erudite is a fitting word, here.
    This thing is yours for melt $, and I'll ship free if you want it.

    Thanks, Bruce...wlw
     
  19. BRandM

    BRandM Counterstamp Collector

    Thanks, wlw. Please see my PM.

    Bruce
     
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