The last truly great Macedonian, through enemy eyes/My greatest denarius but is it the world's best?

Went all in on a coin type I've desired for years now.
Having gone through all examples in AC search, all sales on CNG, wilwinds etc. I do not believe there is a more desirable example of this coin type than my fantastic new RR. If you have one or can find one I'd LOVE to see it.
The coin tells the tale of the last gasp of life from one of the most dominant peoples in history, until Rome came and "ate the whole thing".

(Note the "tip of the hat" to the Greek monogram in the wonderful ROMA monogram behind Philly five's head)
L. MARCIUS PHILIPPUS. Denarius (112 or 113 BC). Rome.
Obv: Head of Philip V of Macedon right, wearing diademed royal Macedonian helmet with goat horns; Roma monogram to upper left, Φ to lower right.
Rev: L PHILIPPVS .
Equestrian statue right; mark of value in exergue. Crawford 293/1. VF 3.99 g. 19 mm. Ex Numismatik Naumann
Purchased Jan/2021

The obverse shows a Roman depiction of the last truly great Macedonian King, Philip V...wearing a comically small pair of ram's horns


Philip V was known as dynamic, energetic, both physically and mentally, as well was known for being extremely handsome. How could I not relate to such a kindred spirit?
You may debate that his son Perseus had a pair, but stood no chance.
This is what the type of helmet, Rome during the republic is satirizing, actually looked like:

Tryphon, Diodotus
Antioch, 141 BCE, AE 18mm, 4.7g
Obvs: Head of Tryphon right diademed.
Revs: BAΣΙΛEΩΣ TPYФΩNOΣ AYTOKPATOPOΣ, Spiked Macedonian helmet. Grain to left
Order # G 139
SC 2034.2b Ex:Savoca

But Rome was always proud of getting to conquer Macedon, despite having supposedly, "never fought an unprovoked war. "
They would boast that they would have beaten Alexander if he turned west instead of east.
I just don't see it. A bunch of part time warrior farmers beating a more perfect killing machine than the world had ever seen to that point, in Philip II's innovations in war fare.


With all of Philip II's grizzled generals and veteran soldiers. Alexander couldn't lose and Rome=



Here the scoundrels are running over the greatest shield type of all time

T. Quinctius Flamininus, 126 BCE, AR denarius. Rome, 3.91g, 18mm.
Obv: Helmeted bust of Roma right; flamen's cap behind; XVI ligate below chin
Rev: The Dioscuri riding right, each holding a couched lance, stars above; Macedonian shield between T-Q below; ROMA in exergue.
Crawford 267/1
The key feature of the type – the Macedonian shield on the reverse – is very clear on this example.
Issued by a descendant of the more famous Flamininus, a philhellene who prosecuted the second Macedonian War against Philip V and proclaimed freedom for Greece.
Ex: AMCC 2 consigned by Caesar_Augustus

Philip had some lovely coins of his own:

Philip V, 221-179 BC. Hemiobol (Bronze, 17 mm, 5.01 g, 12 h), circa 186-183/2 BC. Macedonian shield with whorl/six crescents in boss. Rev. BA ΦI (I curiously missing, possible VERY unique type) around club. Mamroth, Bronzemünzen 16. SNG Kikpe 450. SNG München 1169-71. Well centered, pleasant green patina. Very fine. Ex: Savoca


Philip V
Bottiaiai (Spartolos) AR Pentobol. Circa 185-168 BC. Macedonian shield / Prow of galley right, on which BOTTEATΩN, ΘΕ below. BMC Macedonia p. 64, 3; SNG Evelpidis 1207. 1.32g, 12.73mm.
Good Very Fine.
This type was struck by Philip V of Macedon on behalf of the Bottiaeans. BMC Macedonia 3 type
A nice example but crystalized and broken


Philip V and Perseus. Ca. 221-168 B.C.E
Macedonian Kingdom. AE unit (17.1 mm, 6.07 g, 12 h). Uncertain Macedonian mint. Macedonian shield, star with spiral in center boss / M-K, ΔONΩN, Macedonian helmet with cheek guards, BA monogram below. SNG Alpha Bank -; SNG Cop -; McClean 3666. VF. Rare.

Oh, and he had non shield coins as well. But who collects those

Philip V
Æ Unit. Circa 211-197 BCE Head of Zeus r., wearing wreath of oak leaves / Athena standing r., holding spear and shield; in r. field, thunderbolt. Mamroth, Bronzemünzen 11a; SNG Alpha Bank 1075. 3.46g, 16mm, 4h. Good Very Fine, chocolate brown patina.

Whoops! It's Macedonian and has a shield as well

I would love to see your Philip V coins, Roman Republic coins, coins of yours that you believe are best examples you've seen, shield coins ALWAYS WELCOME, thoughts are appreciated more when accompanied by coins and anything else that brings enlightenment

 

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That is one sweet denarius Ryro! Congrats! I only have one Philip V coin but I think it is unique with the aegis on Athena's shield.


Macedonian Kings, Philip V. Bronze AE17. Aegis shield. Macedonian Kingdom, Philip V, 221 - 179 B.C. Bronze AE 17, obverse laureate head of Zeus right; reverse B-A / Φ, Athena Alkidemos standing right, brandishing javelin in right, aegis in left hand with head of medusa, dolphin lower right. SNG Cop 1244-1246var.

 

Wow! What a denarius, @Ryro!

 

The detail on your aegis makes mine look like a barbarous imitation


... who am I kidding, the Macedonians (and Thracians for that matter) were barbarians to Greeks until Philip II came along and changed the game.

Here's one of his featuring the hero Perseus, whom he must've admired as he named his son after the gorgon, Medusa, killer:

 

Nice example @Ryro !

Here's mine

 

Cheers Ryro, Heres my Philip V Tet Alexandrian style:

 

Another wonderful example!!
Great to see a different artistic take from the Roman mints Though yours, mine and the statue all feature that aquiline nose
More love for Perseus from the king:

Philip V
3.0g AE16, Uncertain mint in Macedon
Obv: Macedonian shield with Perseus facing left as boss
Rev: ΒΑΣΙΛΕΩΣ / ΦΙΛΙΠΠΟΥ; Uncrested Macedonian helmet, star above
Ref: SNG Alpha Bank 1067

 

Mesmerizing portrait and with that amphora and grapes Zeus looks ready to party!
Excellent tet! My tet from around this time is seleucid. So, I'll share a very rare, slightly used, MSC:

Philip V – Perseus
187-168 BC. Æ (14 mm, 2.11 g). Uncertain mint in Macedon. Macedonian shield with eight-pointed star on boss / Monograms between MAKE-ΔΟΝΩΝ in two lines; all within wreath. SNG Copenhagen 1300; Liampi, Makedonische M45a. VF
Ex-Savoca

 

KINGS of MACEDON. Philip V. 221-179 BC. Æ (24mm, 12.08 gm, 11h). Amphipolis mint. Struck circa 188/7-179 BC. Obv: Radiate head of Helios right. Rev: ΒΑΣΙΛΕΩΣ ΦΙΛΙΠΠΟΥ, winged thunderbolt; monogram above and two monograms below; all within wreath. SNG Alpha Bank 1113 var. (lower monograms).

 

And a really interesting one:

Kingdom of Macedon, Philip V AR Tetradrachm. (31mm; 16.82 gm; 11h). In the name and types of Alexander III. Pella mint, circa 180 BC. Obv: Head of Herakles right, wearing lion skin headdress. Rev: Zeus Aëtophoros seated left, holding eagle in right hand and scepter in his left hand. Club in left field, AΛEΞANΔPOY to right, B below throne. Price 636; Müller __.
Roma Numismatics wrote an excellent, exhaustive research in their auction of a coin of this type.
It begins:
"This coin is part of the final issue of 'Alexanders' struck in Macedon, as outlined by Seyrig (H. Seyrig, 'Monnaies héllenistiques, 5. Philippe V ou les Bottiéens', RN 1963, 14-8, pl. ii). Price notes: It represents a revival of the coinage that is much later than the groups of the early part of Antigonos' reign."

 

Great coin, great example, great writeup! I still need one of those. I only have this one bronze with the "hover goats". It has always made me laugh that the reverse here also seems to be giving the middle finger to the Romans. Naturally, this is a @stevex6 coin.


MACEDONIAN KINGDOM. Philip V
AE21. 7.19g, 21.2mm. Struck 186-182 BC. SNG Cop 1250; Lindgren II 1326. O: Head of Herakles right, wearing lion's skin headdress. R: BA, two goats recumbent right; Φ and ear of grain below.
Ex @stevex6 Collection

 

Philip V Ar Stater Pella? 197-179 BC Obv. Bearded head right diademed. Rv. Club within wreath HGC 1059 8.37 grms 23 mm

 

Love the toning on your new coin! A lovely example indeed, I can see why you're excited about it. Definitely on my want list.

Here's a rarity for Philip V. The Pan type is associated with Antigonos II Gonatas, but was issued under Antigonos III Doson as well, and a few examples are known from Philip V's reign (presumably early). The Φ between Pan's legs indicate that this is a Philip example:

 

Wow! That's incredibly interesting, beauteous aaand they did love those clubs:

 

Excellent example
Mine is certainly an, I blame TIF

Don't believe I'd even seen the type before her hilarious levitating cat example.

 

Great writep, cool coins, and SUPER Denarius, @Ryro ! Very nice.

PV

Makedon Philip V AE17 3.7g 221-179 BCE Perseus Hd R helmet w winged vulture - Horse rearing R SNG Cop 1239


Hey, with SHIELD also!

Makedon Amphipolis Philip V - Perseus - lost empire to Romans - helmet Tetrobol

 

Just ROLLIN' over those SHIELDS...


Roman Republic T Quinctius Flamininus 126 BC AR Denarius Roma Diosc gallpng T-Q Macedon Shield S 143 Cr 267-1



Roman Republic Cn Plancius 55 BCE Macedonia causia Cretan Goat quiver Sear 396 Craw 432-1



Roman Republic Aemilius Lepidus Paullus 62 BCE Concordia Perseus Macedon captive Sear 366 Craw 415-1

 

@Alegandron, it's only taken reading this up to about "3 drinks" and "phalanx ...no, dear, promise you, not tonight" for it to land on me that There's exactly zero.zero way I have the current capacity to respond without foul language of some sort. ...If the software's in place, it seems to be a slow download....

 

Beautiful looking denarius Ryro;
here's mine of same...