Junk silver? Not. 1928 Peace Dollar

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  1. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    Without a pic, how is anyone supposed to comment? BTW, did they send a note "no grade - unattractive fields"? How do you know why they did not grade it?
     
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  3. Mark Feld

    Mark Feld Rare coin dealer

    I'm sure they didn't refuse to grade it simply because it was "unattractive" - they do not use that as a reason not to grade a coin. It must have had some other type of problem, such as environmental damage, altered surfaces, corrosion, etc. Here is a link listing the reasons that NGC no-grades coins: http://www.ngccoin.com/services/nograde.asp

    But even if they had refused to grade it due to it being unattractive, that still wouldn't support your contention that they would lower a VF coin to VG due to its appearance. You have, in effect, shot down your own argument with your above example.
     
  4. just coins

    just coins New Member

    Well the point i;m trying to make is with the op's coin unattractive fields they refused my coin so why wouldn't they refuse the op's coin that;s the point I was trying to make ,and that's worse then the grade being dropped ,they refused my coin from being graded. So i didn't shoot down my own argument just adding a few more bullets.

    JC

    JC
     
  5. CrustyCoins

    CrustyCoins Twilight Photographer

    That is some strong evidence for it being an S. Guess we won't know for sure unless we see it graded or in hand.
     
  6. grizz

    grizz numismatist

    .........i know one thing. if i wanted a second opinion of a coin's grade i wouldn't hesitate in the least to have mark feld give me his opinion. he is a very well read coin professional and i would trust his judgment in a heartbeat! i wish i could have him screen my coins before i cut the check to any dealer or individual before i pull the trigger. THAT'S how much i trust mark feld.

    steve
     
  7. CrustyCoins

    CrustyCoins Twilight Photographer

    Well, maybe you could see if he would offer his services for a fee. ;)
     
  8. Mark Feld

    Mark Feld Rare coin dealer

    You talked about a grade of VG due to its unattractiveness - that is mostly what we have been debating. Now you're talking about a no-grade due to its unattractiveness. NGC doesn't body-bag coins merely because they are ugly. And it doesn't grade VF coins VG, merely because they are ugly. Your entire argument seems to be based on the faulty premise that your coin was body-bagged because it was ugly.
     
  9. just coins

    just coins New Member

    Well if you want to use the term bodybag then that;s even better, why it was sent back to me.

    So what i have been saying from the begining of this thread the op's coin has a good possiblity of being body baged for it;s unattractive fields ugly toning ,and possible unnatural toning or maybe even corrosion.
    Joe
     
  10. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter


    What we have been trying to tell you is that neither of those reasons will body bag a coin.
     
  11. just coins

    just coins New Member


    Well they body baged my coin and my coin wasn't corroded it was ulgly toning unattractive fields and there was nothing else wrong with the coin Dutchman so what other reasons would you thing they sent the coin back/ There were no other problems with the coin the strike was good for a 1972 Ike dollar which are hard to come by and a type 2 rare coin that's why i submitted it in the first place

    JC
     
  12. rockdude

    rockdude Coin Collector

    Post No. 102 ".I'm done with this thread".

    That's funny jc.
     
  13. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter


    This was originally posted by Mark a while back but I guess you didn't bother to read it...

    http://www.ngccoin.com/services/nograde.asp

    one of these reasons was why your coin got body bagged... not unattractive fields, or toning. If the toning was artificial, yes that would be a reason for the coin to get body bagged. Did you read what they put on the body bag? (they tell you there why it got body bagged) or are you making all this up?
     
  14. BuffaloNickel86

    BuffaloNickel86 Spare Change Hunter

    No way of knowing why it would be rejected without knowing what it looks like. I'm having a hard time believing any reputable grading company would reject a coin simply because it is 'ugly' or 'unattractive'.
     
  15. just coins

    just coins New Member

    Well i'm a funny guy Rockdude:yawn:, and they keep my blood flowing they feed me :eat: that;s why I keep posting they make me do it:desk:.
     
  16. just coins

    just coins New Member

    Here we go again with your asumptions that i'm making things up. I said in an early thread the coin was sent back to me for unattractive fields which was stated the toning of the coin poor eye apeal that;s what it said.There was nothing said about unnatural toning

    This coin was sold i have my own mail, order house bussiness called just coins other wise i would post the coin/
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    This thread is not about my coin i'm just trying to make a couple of points out ,and used my coin as an example so lets keep the thread in context
    Please don't call me a lier Mr Ducthman:hammer:

    JC
     
  17. rugrats2001

    rugrats2001 Seeker of Truth

    And with that, the Troll reveals himself naked for all in the kingdom to see and laugh.:kewl:

    The End
     
  18. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    The fact that coins will not be bagged because they are unattractive is not an assumption. However, unless you show us something, we can only make assumptions. Since you say you sold your coin, show us another example. you are so sure that this is their policy, it must have happened more then once.
     
  19. just coins

    just coins New Member

    Your comment here don't rate and you better read the rules no name calling

    JC
     
  20. just coins

    just coins New Member

    Now how could I show you something when i don't have the coin anymore doe's that make sence I have know other example like that coin to show i;m just glad I got rid of it for a resonable price it was ugly toning

    I have to say the toning was similar like the op's coin with a little more bad toning on the fields . There's my example

    JC
     
  21. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    So far, Mark has shown you 2 examples and you have shown us nothing. It is very hard to discuss what we cannot see.

    BTW, "doe's" is the possessive form of a female deer.
     
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