1963 Frankin Error ? What are these lines ?

Now I usually dont look too deeply into modern coins but for some reason this coin jumped at me from the top of a BU roll.

It is a 1963 Franklin Half with a row of odd lines comming off the top left side of the bell. I found (3) of them in the roll.

The 1st picture should be of the "normal" reverse. The rest should be of the error.

I have circled one of the pictures the area in question.

I would like to hear if anyone knows what it is or does something like this not matter. The look like tool marks but I havent seen marks in a row like this before so Im at a loss.

Thanks- J

 

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Chinese counterfeit.....sorry, I'll go to my room now.

 

Die polish marks

 

IMO too big, highstanding & uniform to be die polish marks.

 

budgood,

I was leaning towards a Die Clash of Franklin's hairline but I am not sure that that holds water! A really detailed close-up of Franklin's hairline would be needed to see if there is any relation. The only other thing I can think of, is some sort of Strike Thru Error!


Frank

 

We really need full picture of the obv & rev, to tell whats going on with this coin

 

They are raised lines on the surface i would say striation marks but the direction is weird strange . They won't be lathe marks they don't look like die cracks or gouges either I have to say I;m stumped on this one

JAZEC

 

Here they are .

This isnt a one coin case either - I found 3 of these in the roll.

 

We can definitely rule out a Die Clash from the Obverse details! As to what could have made the lines, beats the Jimmy Dickens out of me!


Frank

 

everything that Frank said.

If it were not you, Budgood, I would have just continued on and assumed post mint.

But, three in one roll?

Strange to say the least.
Where the heck is Mike lately?

 

Not supposed to be there?

Wonder if my trying to use the BB gets this found?

I don't know WHAT those lines are.

But I have some questions about possible Franklin errors, too.

I call this one "Ben In a Wreck".

My example looks like a die crack but has both In & Out aspects.

Two different inci_dents?

Both sides afflicted. I hope Somebody with knowledge finds this post. I'm putting them in my album here so I can find the photos again.:hatch:


Does this have value?

 

Sorry, Dok U, that is all post mint damage. Someone really didn't like Franklin, apparently. Note that next to each raised line is a groove, where the metal was displaced. Someone took a knife or something and gouged the heck out of that coin.

As for the OP's coin, I have to say I also am somewhat perplexed. Die polish is the best fit in my mind, perhaps only a single stroke of a coarse brush?

 

Doc U:
Agreed with physics --
post mint damage.
Someone used a knife of something to cut into the design.

 

Mint workers abrade the coin dies when they need to clean up problems such as clash marks or other damage to the face of the dies. After the abrading, which obscures the fault, the die should be polished to bring the surface back to a smooth texture. I think that last step was missed.

 

On the first Franklin - looks like marks left by a pipe wrench or something. Do you suppose the die was damaged by a tool during installation into the press?

 

Those images on the coin are not raised that is done by a knife or some sharp object this did not happen at the mint It's Post mint knife damage.

JC

 

Just hoping

I keep hoping to find a coin to bust my CherryPicken/ never been slabbed hump over with and I was hoping this might be the one.

I noticed that there was an indent next to SOME of the raised parts, but not all. The amount of displaced face material looked disproportionate to the raised material next to it. More than One is quite "not straight" and that got my interest.

More opinions, Please as I'm not sure if this is submittable or I am commitable.

 

budgood,
Are the lines raised or incuse?

 

Tumescent not recessed.

 

Something went wrong somewhere in the minting process, that is all I can say.....:desk: