Junk silver? Not. 1928 Peace Dollar

That's the same spot I think the "S" mint mark is but I need better pics to be for sure.

Ribbit

 

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JC! :goof: There is no need to be mean! :goof: Plus, RLM's knowledge is only limited by what he limits it by. :bow:

As to Mark, if Mark says a coin is VG, when I think it's VF, the odds are darn good it's VG. Mark is very experienced grading coins and I'd take his opinion over mine anyday. :bow: Although, that doesn't mean I won't argue the grade with him.

Ribbit

 

And who's knowledge isn't limited.
I didn't know you had unlimited knowledge.
As much as we may think we know everything, we learn something every day in this hobby.

 

NO

Do not try to clean that coin. That is honest toning from a Whitman folding album, I have seen that toning before and it is NOT as bad as these guy are saying. Take this to a shop that submits to PCGS and slab it.

I tell you now this coin looks ok, slab it.

 

Well this is one coin that I will argue my point of view with him until the end of timedd:

I;m not being mean you know me very well toad fugio guy with the hole remember/ I respect every bodys views on here,:loud: but when i see a coin that is problematic like this i will stick to my conclusion on this coin :whistle:.

Thank you so much Joe

 

I understand your comment on cleaned coins. I don't like them either. On the other hand, I wouldn't buy this coin with such poor eye appeal. Who's going to pay $250 for something that looks like that? I'm only suggesting that the coin may have hit the twilight zone between you're damned if you do and you're damned if you don't. I'm open on this one.

 

I think we should call this coin the problematic one:stooge:
JC

 

I have enough knowledge to realize how bad this coin really is, I didn't say i was a genius, but close when it comes to grading a coin like this.

JC

 

This may not be a $250 coin (though you might get that for it), but that toning is typical of those folders, this coin will not be body bagged (imho).

 

In the early years of coin collecting, three general terms were used to describe a coin's grade:

• Good Where details were visible but circulation had worn the surface
• Fine Features were less worn from circulation and a bit of the mint luster showed on the surfaces
• Uncirculated Details were sharp and there was a luster approaching the state of the coin at the mint, prior to general circulation

 

We still have to determine if it's a S or P mint if it's an S maybe 25 dollars with the black junk on the fields raw that is
JC

 

If I could inspect it in hand and determine it didn't have a removed mint-mark, I'd gladly pay $250 for it. But the bottom line is that if it's a 1928 P, it's worth more than that, even if some of you think it's ugly.

 

Actually I don't think it is ugly. Perhaps there are a few spots that have gone from the russet color to dark gray or black and might have some hidden damage, but overall, it is much better to me than a similar coin dipped to gun metal gray. I would grade it in the VF range, and none of us can see through the toning to see if any surface damage is there. I have only seen a few mm removal jobs, and one was a 1928-S ==> 1928, and the toning seemed to outline it more than cover it, and I thought it was because of the "strike hardening" effect of the mintmark. Since we are guessing, I would say 1928 VF, possible surface damage under the toning. I would like it myself.

Jim

 

Personally, I like the toning. It gives the coin a crusty, original look that nicely contrasts with all the dippety do dahs out there(cleaned coins). It's a solid VF, and quite possibly problem free coin.

 

I will agree with most of the posters here that it's a VF coin with Whitman toning. While I don't have the experience of Mark or RLM I have agreed with their opinions on a number of coins in the past.

JC, you're so adamant that you'd argue "till the end of time" and that you're close to being a genius, shows me your obstinate nature which is not really appreciated here, IMO. Give it a rest and let Sholom do what he has to do to determine the grade and state of the coin.

Bruce

 

New pic of 1928 Peace Dollar

Hi all . . . I'm sitting here enjoying the, ahem, "lively" discussion.

In any event, I ramped up my scanner to do a 4800 dpi, and then, of course, had to shrink the image to be uploaded here . . . but here's a new pic of the mint area of the coin.

FWIW, I looked at it with a 10x loupe, and it sure looks like there's no hanky panky stuff in the area. But, I'm completely inexperienced at this.

In any event, here's the pic:

 

Looking at that I don't see a mint mark. Yes the coin has some unattractive toning but it is beinging to grow on me I kind of like it. It shows what the old whitman albums did to coins. Makes it a bit unique. Ice

 

Mark puts his pants on one leg at a time, just like everyone else. Not to say that I can grade as well as he, but he is only human.

 

ok... from the latest pics I see an area where the color is different from the surrounding area. If this is what the op and others have been calling the "S" that they see, then I would definitely have it looked at in hand by an expert.

This may be the remains of a removed mint mark. It could also be the picture, but if that is the "S" that you've seen, I would say that the color of that area is bothersome.

As far as the thread, let me try to calm everything here a bit. JC, you are entitled to your opinion as we all are and there have been many expressed here, but your insistance that posters lack knowledge because they disagree with your grade is a bit self-serving. You have made your grade and your opinion of the coin more than well known here, but when you keep repeating it, you look like you're trying to shout down the others. I think we all understand what you're trying to say, even if we happen to disagree with it.

There is a tremendously deep pool of knowledge on this forum and it is bigger than any one person here.

 

That is not true you are interpeting it the wrong way. I do respect other opinions here I have repeated my thoughts because I;m just answering the posts back. I don't claim to be an expert but when i see a problematic coin like this I'm pretty sure i have enough knowledge on the subject to determine what the graders might grade this coin which is only an opiinon/

I apoligize if everybody is taking what i say the wrong way and i know there are alot of knowledgeable people on here.

Thanks Joe