Papal Medals Mystery

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by angelo43, Jan 29, 2021.

  1. angelo43

    angelo43 New Member

    I am looking for some help from the Numismatic community. I have acquired approximately 250 Papal medals from an eBay seller in upstate New York. He acquired them, purportedly, from the sister of a Roman Catholic Cardinal after his death. I am currently preparing the Papal medals for inclusion into an auction at either Heritage or Bowers. There seems to be some consensus that says that if I could prove the provenance of the medals that they would be more sellable.

    The last of the medals was the Papal medal of 2016, year four, of Frances reign. There were three Cardinals that died after 2015. One of them was Bernard Frances Law who was an only child, therefore, he could not have a sister that would have sold these metals

    The other Cardinals were William Wakefield Baum and William Henry Keeler. I have been able to find out that Cardinal Keeler has two sisters both living in Toronto. The seller was very forthcoming in telling me that the sister who sold these medals wanted only cash and would not allow him to keep any of the photographs that she showed him showing the Cardinal receiving some of these medals from the Pope. He also showed me pictures of a chalice the was made from the Almy company in Spain for the Cardinal. I could not find out anything from them after repeated calls, except the for Cardinals Baum and Keeler, they bought shirts from them. Cardinal Baum also died in 2015, he might have received the 2016 medal, but I doubt it.

    It’s my guess that William Henry Keeler was the Papal medals collector however I have no proof of that, merely conjecture.

    I have obviously looked through the Internet extensively, but I cannot find any reference to either of these two Cardinals being Papal medals collectors.

    I am asking the community to help me to see if anyone out there knows for a fact which cardinal could’ve been the collector. I’m more than happy to take any PM but would love to start a conversation on the boards.

    Thanks very much for all your help.
     
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  3. angelo43

    angelo43 New Member

    Heres some pics. Newer ones with some old ones coming from NGC also
     

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  4. ZoidMeister

    ZoidMeister Hamlet Squire of Tomfoolery . . . . .

    Any from Pius IX? You have a few nice ones there. Hope to see more.

    Z
     
  5. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

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    Really like this one. All of them are nice though.
    Post the rest when you get them.
     
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  6. angelo43

    angelo43 New Member

    have most of them back to 1700
     
  7. ZoidMeister

    ZoidMeister Hamlet Squire of Tomfoolery . . . . .

    Heck, my accumulation is a lot more limited, but I am always happy to do a "show-n-tell" session with them.

    Z



    1868 Pope Pius IX  Vatican - Raphael Loggias - obverse.JPG

    1868 Pope Pius IX  Vatican - Raphael Loggias - reverse #1.jpg

    1900 Pope Leo XIII - Bianchi - obverse.jpg

    1900 Pope Leo XIII - Bianchi - reverse.jpg

    1964 Pope Paul VI - Giampaoli - La Pieta -  obverse.JPG

    1964 Pope Paul VI - Giampaoli - La Pieta -  reverse.JPG

    1965 Pope Paul VI  Madonna & Child - obverse.jpg

    1965 Pope Paul VI  Madonna & Child - reverse.jpg

     
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  8. angelo43

    angelo43 New Member

    you are going to love the auction when available over 250 medals
     
  9. angelo43

    angelo43 New Member

    Sent off to Heritage and will be online soon
     
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