1944-P "Pierfort Cent" Lincoln Cent - Pollock 2078 Variety!

1944-P "Piefort Cent" Lincoln Cent - Pollock 2078 Variety!

Hi All,

Well after numerous disappointments, I am sure that I have made a significant find in a rare coin! I recently purchased 247 Lincoln "Wheat" Cents from a local Pawn Shop to search for errors. After getting home that day, I started looking through the coins and came across a 1944-P Cent that is about as thick as a Nickel but has the same diameter and apparent composition as a normal 1944-P Cent. Well I set the coin aside with some other error cents until I finished searching all of the cents that I had just purchased. Well on Saturday night, I finally finished seaching the cents and went straight for the 1944-P Cent to inspect it more thoroughly. After surmising that the cent had to be some sort of error, I begain searching the Web for such a 1944-P Cent. I got a hit on the first try (Google Search on "1944-P Lincoln Cent Thick Planchet") and found several hits on the "Pre-Long Beach Auctions" and clicked on the link. Imagine my surprise when I scrolled down the "Pre-Long Beach Auction" (Web Based) Catalog and found that my 1944-P Lincoln Cent is a very rare 1944-P "Piefort Cent" Lincoln Cent - Pollock 2078 Variety struck on an experimental thick planchet.

I was wondering if anyone knows anything about these rare Variety Cents and how much mine may be worth especially after I send it in to have it authenticated, graded, attributed and slabbed? For info purposes, my "Piefort Cent" has several Struck Through (most probably thread) Errors on the Obverse but has seen some circulation and will grade out somewhere between EF to AU. It is also a dark Red/Brown almost Purplish/Brown in color.


Thanks...Frank

 

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Well first of all....can you post some photos?
The best way to find out how much it is worth is to watch the Auction you found one on and see how much it goes for.

Be sure to get it graded...I'm not sure what the % of fakes might be out there...but I have never heard of this "error".

Way to go on your find!

Speedy

 

Speedy,

I will try to get some pictures later today and post them on he forum! I have never posted pictrues on here, so I am hoping that you all can help!

The cents that I found, were from a couple of the "Pre-Long Beach Auctions" for coins but they did not give the price if and when it sold, only the estimated (expected) sale price. I will check around some more and maybe I can find a price that one of these brought.


Frank

 

nice find!

 

I don't understand - what is this variety of wheat cent? I've never heard of it before....

~AJ

 

Hey all,

I am going to attempt to post pictures of the coin but I have never posted any pictures here before, so please be patient! I will try to post them in a few minutes!


Frank

 

Pictures of 1944-P "Piefort Cent" Lincoln Cent - Pollock 2078 Variety

Well here goes! I am posting 4 pictures, the first two are of the cent and the last two are taken with a 1945-P Cent, the 1944-P "Piefort Cent" and a new Nickel standing on their' ends. As you can see, the Piefort Cent is the same diameter as the 1945-P Cent but is thicker than a Nickel.

 

Sorry, but I forgot to mention that the "Piefort Cent" is the one in the middle in the last two pictures!


Frank

 

GDJMSP,

Thanks! It sure has been a log time in coming with many disappointments! Even in it's condition, the coin is a significant find for me. Before finding this coin, I never realized that they were even made much less that they apparently span from 1941 to 1945 with the earlier ones being the most rare. What is worse, is that in the past I have had some thick planchet cents in some of those years and to think that I may have sold them, not knowing that they may be one of these rare Variety Cents, almost makes me sick!

As far as the damage or Struck Thru Errors, I have viewed them with a 20x to 60x lighted Magnifier and believe that there are legitimate Struck Thru Errors from Lincoln's forehead hairline Northeast to the "R" then Northwest to the "T" in "TRUST" and also another one extending from in front of Lincoln's vest Northeast through and beyond the first "4" in the Date. The area on the back of Lincoln's head is still questionable as while it also looks like a Struck Thru Error there is some folding away from the area which would normally indicate a gouge and not a Struck Thru Error.


Frank

 

I agree with GDJMSP...there is some damage on the coin...not that it matters much I don't think but I don't think PCGS or NGC will grade it...I would be sure to send it to ANACS...

Speedy

 

I have a 2 very thick pennies, from 1972... is it the same kind of deal with the experemental planchet?

 

Pictures tomorrow, my camera is on vacation with my family ~:-(
It seems like it's thicker, but my analog calipers say it's .1mm thicker maximum... Is it really different?

 

Yes, you read correctly.... Alright, I give up