Your thoughts on these toners (now that I have pro pics)

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Magman, Jun 15, 2009.

  1. Magman

    Magman U.S. Money Collector

    I posted a thread about the 1958 Mint Set I bought (http://www.cointalk.com/forum/t55289/)
    Here are pictures of the two coins I plan on sending to PCGS and then selling.

    let me know what you think :)

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    Pictures were taken by Todd (Bluccphotos) :D
     
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  3. Joshycfl

    Joshycfl Senior Member

    Pictures are 100times better! Great looking toners!
     
  4. xtrmbrdr

    xtrmbrdr Senior Member

    WOW!!! Those are monsters!!!
     
  5. the_man12

    the_man12 Amateur Photographer

    that is the best toned franklin i have ever seen
     
  6. The Penny Lady®

    The Penny Lady® Coin Dealer

    Mag, those are some pretty coins. I was wondering, however, you know me, I don't know much about silver, but do you think PCGS will have a problem with that rust colored toning and spots? I don't even know what it is or what would make it tone only in those areas in that shape, perhaps from a wrapper or folded paper?
     
  7. Magman

    Magman U.S. Money Collector

    On the quarter?
    It's almost like a non-lustrous "toning" -- I don't think PCGS would have a problem with it.

    And yeah, I think it's from the tissue paper rubbing against it.
     
  8. tmoneyeagles

    tmoneyeagles Indian Buffalo Gatherer

    WOW!
    You should make FANTASTIC money on em'
    Just amazing!
    Thanks For Sharing! ;)
     
  9. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    Are those really the same coins you showed last week? WOW! Both coins are phenomenal. I really hope that PCGS grades both. Personally, I think you should send them to NGC. There is no possibility that they will end up in a GENUINE slab and they will both get a star designation IMO.

    The Washington Quarter is a no brainer. You stand to make a lot of money on that coin depending upon the grade from the TPG. I can't grade Washington's to save my butt, however, I think MS66* is definitely not out of the question. If it comes back MS66*, you can count me in as a potential buyer. That coin blows my current Washington out of the water.

    The Franklin Half is a little more difficult. Despite the fact that it is a 1958-D which are famous for incredible toning from mint sets, this coin has a color scheme that is extraordinarily rare. You just don't find bright turquoise on Franklins very often. The reverse is just gorgeous and I believe that the original look of the reverse will carry this coin into a slab as market acceptable. The grade unfortunately will not be as high as the quarter and I would expect it to top out at MS63*.

    Regardless of the TPG grades, those two coins are stunningly beautiful and exemplify why I am a collector of rainbow toned coins. I mean, how do you not love those coins.
     
  10. Arizona Jack

    Arizona Jack The Lincoln-ator

    Lehigh
    i saw the coins in hand last Sunday, they are truly stunners, BUT, you should see his 2 keepers, he has not shown them yet:secret:
     
  11. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    What! No way! Come on Magman, you gotta show them to me. I promise I won't make a ridiculous buy offer that compels you to sell them to me.;)
     
  12. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    Jack,

    Since you saw the coins in hand, what do you think they will grade?
     
  13. Magman

    Magman U.S. Money Collector

    Do you have a picture of your quarter? :D

    And thanks for the great response, I may have to reconsider and send them to NGC... lol.
    Although I personally thought that neither had a chance at a star. did you notice the reed marks (more like gashes IMO) on the reverse of the Franklin? (can't really miss 'em).

    The quarter obverse is a little darker in person. Unfortunately, even with fantastic photography such as Todd's it's truly hard to show what they look like in hand. Also, the luster and toning actually show through the brown film on the quarter obverse when you look at in light...

    The pictures are also bigger which shows off more.

    Anyway, as I said, perhaps I will send to NGC...

    I hope you're right about the quarter being MS66... since that double the price of it from MS65, lol :)


    edit: the quarter in the first thread is the one I'm keeping.
    But my pictures don't show it off properly. :D
    The Franklin I'm keeping has a great Blue obverse :)

    Edit again: that quarter that I am keeping I think has an extremely high chance at a star. In fact, if it DIDN'T get a star I would be surprised.
     
  14. Boss

    Boss Coin Hoarder

    Mag- sweet coins. Send to NGC. I agree. PCGS is goofy with toned coins.
     
  15. Magman

    Magman U.S. Money Collector

    Yeah, I think I will.

    Oddly enough, on the PCGS forum they recommended I send to PCGS... :confused:
     
  16. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    Magman,

    Come on now. Do you want us to believe that you didn't send all of the coins for Todd to photograph? The reed marks on the Franklin should affect the numerical grade of the coin but should have no impact on the star designation. The star designation only indicates that the coin has exceptional eye appeal for the assigned grade and has nothing to do with a PQ status. Since marks like that are common on an MS63, they will in no way inhibit the chance of a star.

    What will affect the chance of a star designation is if the luster is in any way muted, if the toning is too deep or borders on charcoal or black, or if the toning is mottled. If anything, you should be worried about scenario number two since the toning appears very deep.

    Here are two sets of photos of my 1958 NGC MS66*

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    Now show me yours.:)
     
  17. Magman

    Magman U.S. Money Collector

    Ah ok, thanks.
    And I remember that quarter, I really like that dark blue and purple!

    And yes, I only sent him those two.
    You can ask him yourself if you don't believe me ;)
    My plan was to send him those so he could photograph and I could sell them right away (my original intention was to sell raw, but then everyone said I should get them graded).
    And I was going to send another two coins to someone else to photograph so I could see and compare their style.

    Also, you may be interested in the thread I posted in the Open Forum :D lol
     
  18. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns

    Outstanding toners! :yawn:
     
  19. HOBBY61

    HOBBY61 Senior Member

  20. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    Magman:
    How about, edit your original post and put in a link to the original thread, with the other photos.

    It will be interesting to see.

    Thanks
     
  21. Magman

    Magman U.S. Money Collector

    I did already :confused: lol
     
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