hairline? or something more?

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by 99362, Jun 5, 2009.

  1. 99362

    99362 New Member

    looking through my nickels again, i came across this 1964 with what looks to be a hair embedded in the coin itself (saw this with my naked eye ... yes i have that good of eyesight). (it was originally found in circulation, so i tried gently moving it with finger and did not budge). i took a scan at 1200x1200 dpi; cropped to just the coin for the whole reverse for one picture. i then further cropped it in to where the "error" was, blew it up to 250%, took screenshot, then moved it back into photoshop to save. (sorry for going into detail about how i got picture, but some ppl like to know how to get big pictures).

    please help me out with this coin, and thank you in advance.

    i would also like to know a potential value range (in $ amounts) .... and possibly a grade, even though it is circulated, it looks extremely good for the age it is.
     

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  3. weryon

    weryon World traveler - In Thailand

    I would tend to say that the hairline was created after the coin was minted; I’m only deducting this from what I believe I see on the image. Simply looks like a imbedded scratch. And in the world of coins , scratches bring no premium :D
     
  4. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    looks like post mint, that is a scratch.
    If a die break it would be raised.
     
  5. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

    the fact that there are what appears in the picture to be 2 parallel lines would lead me to believe that this is a scratch. When you scratch a coin you make a trough in the metal and the light reflects off each edge of the trough making it appear as 2 parallel lines. A die crack or something along those lines will appear as one raised line.
     
  6. just coins

    just coins New Member

    I have to go with a strike thru the image looks raised and it doe's not look like a scratch The Op also makes clear the object is embedded on surface of the dome/ I magnified it to 400 hundred times and it looks raised , it could be a strike thru error.I'm pretty sure the OP knows what a scratch looks like.

    JC
     

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  7. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

    also the fact that it extends out past the edge of the design would make it a scratch as well.

    What he highlighted above is just part of the design.
     
  8. just coins

    just coins New Member

    The Op is saying the object is embedded in the coin and he is the one that has the coin in hand so i;m going by common sense what he's stating about the foreign object ,and he says it looks like a hairline embeded in the surface of the coin which makes the object raised that;s what i'm going by.
    JC
     
  9. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    I am not sure, but I think you can prove what it is. There is a nick in the dome that collides with the mark. If the mark goes through the nick, then the mark came last. i.e., the mark came after the nick and it has to be a post mint damage or scratch. I believe that is what I am seeing.

    However, if the nick goes through the mark, it only proves that the mark came prior to the nick, but not that the nick occurred at the mint.
     
  10. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

    right above the building it appears that the mark vanishes and then reappears a little farther out as it comes into the field this would also be consistent with a scratch.

    That's all I can say on this one. To me it is clearly and unequivocally a scratch.
     
  11. just coins

    just coins New Member

    I would like to ask the Op is the image raised on the dome then it will determine the cause of this.
    JC
     
  12. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

    Of course the thing you highlighted on the dome is raised, it's part of the design.
     
  13. just coins

    just coins New Member

    Well that's funny, so what the op is pointing out is the area were i indicated in white then it;s a scratch ,that one through me off for some reason i guess it was the light.:desk:
    I really thought it was exstending out from the dome area amd wasn't the detail until you pointed it out to me since the coin looks pretty worn to me. :high5:
    JC
     

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  14. rockdude

    rockdude Coin Collector

    Any possibility to get a shot of that.
     
  15. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

    This is the "hairline" the op is talking about... nothing to do with the dome at all besides the fact that the scratch goes through it.

    [​IMG]
     
  16. rockdude

    rockdude Coin Collector

    I agree it looks like a scratch. The op has the coin and I believe he feels that something is embedded in the coin. so what was he tring to remove?
     
  17. just coins

    just coins New Member

    That's what i have been saying all along to Rockdude I agree with you . The OP is the one that says the object is embeded in the coin ad possibly raised by what the OP is explaining.

    I would like to hear from the OP's point of view on what he means before I come up with a conclusion on this object.

    JC and formerly Jazzcoins Joe Yep it's me hello glad to be back/
     
  18. justafarmer

    justafarmer Senior Member

    I don’t think a human hair would imbed in a coin. Wouldn't the heat from the metal flow would burn it out.
     
  19. just coins

    just coins New Member

    Well it just may not be a human hair it;s very possible it could be a very thin piece of wire that may apear to be a human hair ,and with some strike thru errors ,you sometimes can't make out what the foriegn object really is:rolling::rolling: .

    JC formerly jazzcoins Joe
     
  20. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    And why would not the heat burn out threads like we have seen posted here multiple times?
     
  21. foundinrolls

    foundinrolls Roll Searching Enthusiast

    Hi,

    It's a scratch....Even The letter "U" is damaged on the path of the scratch.
    Thanks,
    Bill
     
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