LP2 2009 lincoln die gouge/clash

Decided to bust up on of my LP2 rolls from the mint last night to look for any high grade ones and I found 3 that have what looks to be a gouge or possibly a clash right under Abe's chin, it is shaped like a "Y" shaped tree branh upside down going from his chin to his chest. It is definitely raised and looks the same on 3 coins. I will get some pics up later if they come out. Anyone heard of this one yet?

 

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This is the only 2009 Lmc Die variety known so far

 

Yea, I have been looking for that one unsuccessfully, this is on the new LP2 release Here's the pic, it is definitely raised and looks the same on all three coins look under the chin.

 

Also, I can email the larger size pic to anyone if they want to look at it closer. If this is a new variety who would I send it to for verification?

 

look like a die crack to me.but a full photo of the obverse would help!!

 

And here is a close up

 

Yea that is the only area where it shows is from the bottom of the chin to the chest. I thought it was scratched at first until I saw that it is raised and found two more just like it. I could see die crack too.

 

We need a complete photo of the obverse to really tell.

 

OK. I will try to get one at lunch, its hard to get the whole thing in through a 20x loupe, would a 10x be enough? Are you trying to see if the crack runs anywhere else? Or what would that tell you?

 

Don't rush. it take time to get a good shot so take your time.

 

OK, these are the best I can get right now.

 

heard back from a pro, his opinion is die crack. Oh well, still was a neat find and I kind of have die clash on the brain so it was a good rush when I first saw it on 3 of them.

 

What about LINCOLN LOG CABIN PENNY...EXTRA LOGS??? :kewl:

 

You know, I am really wondering about this, if it were a crack would it have seperate features? Most die cracks I have seen have been one continuous line. I crudely and poorly drew over the areas that are raised on the coin so it is easier to see, wouldn't that have to be more damage than just a crack? I would think it was a clash but I can't seem to find anything that lines up with those shapes. Let me know what you think.

 

Looks like a strange place for a die crack, more likely a die gouge.

 

I was thinking that cracks don't usually appear in the middle do they? I think I have it figured out. Die clash, look at the last pic I posted and compare that to the reverse, the lines are in the right place for the opening in abe's shirt and you can see the seperate blobs for the buttons. I think that is it! Die clash! Anyone else agree?

 

How about a pic of the reverse. I don't have the coin in hand.

 

you really have to use a scope to see it well but this should give you an idea, you can't really make out the button holes in this pic.

 

heres the one I drew on so you can see both.

 

also, I sent an email to numismatic news and coinworld, is there anything I should do to protect myself as the discoverer if this is a clash? I will let everyone know what they tell me if I hear back.