8 real? SPANISH HAMMERED COIN pre 1600's

I bought this coin which is in bad condition,Almost nothing to read on it,but mintmarks are readable B & D.
Hammered coins are very difficult to authenticate.
See the photos,tell me what do u think?
I checked all the coins of spain after 1788 I didn't find hammered coins. I believe this one should before that date.
Is it 8 reals?
What should be the approximate price of this coin,I checked many on the internet auctions,at this large hammered spanish coins are sold more than $500.

The coin is 27 Grams.

THANK YOU




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I just found this information for a simillar coin

on this website: http://www.newworldtreasures.com/cointypes.htm​

 

Mine looks like Hammer moved error?

 

The coin does not look real from the photos. But if it were, I would guess it to be an 8 reales cob from the Lima mint, Hapsburg shield type, assayer D. This would date it between 1577-1588. What you are calling a 'B' would be the denomination, 8.

Edit: There are also some hammered 8 reales from Spain in the 1600's that look a bit like what this coin is imitating.

The upper right of the shield is blundered, among other places, as in struck more than once but not overlayed correctly the second time.

 

Can I sugest that you contact Doug and ask his opinion on it :smile

 

I agree that it looks like a fake. However, with respect to the particular distribution of mint mark and denomination, would you agree the obverse looks a like the following example? This is the coin I used to come up with the above attribution (Menzel, page 177).

 

The coin is apparently from Lima, Peru and the assayers was (D) Diego de la Torre. According to Daniel Sedwick in his well respected book, "The Practical Book of Cobs," he makes the following statement:

"The coins of assayer Diego de la Torre of the 1577-1592 period are notable. His production is more scarce than rare, yet much sought because of the good quality of workmanship and wealth of varieties of mintmark-assayer-denomination combinations, any of which can be sometimes to the left of the shield, sometimes to the right."

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Here's a photo from page 77 of the book showing a 4-reales coin by the Peru mint and same assayer. Notice position of mintmarks.


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Did anyone notice that my coin doesn't have full circle?
All the small dots are diveded by three parts,observe and reverse.
check it well,fake coins shouldn't appear like it./ the fakes are always copied from the orginal ones, this one is totally different.

Even the castle , it's a double die,there are two castles, there should be only one.

 

Misaligned double stikes on Spanish-Colonial cobs are not unusual at all -- in fact, quite common -- and is not an indication either way of the authenticiy of the coin. However, personally, I would give this kind of "flaw" a nod to the "authentic" side of the question.

 

similar coin

I just joined because I was looking for information about this coin that I just bought. It is similar to this one, accept that it is only 2.5 grams, and about 1.1 inch in diameter (Not a genuine circle.). Instead of having an 8 on the left of the shield, it is an "1" or an "I". The right side has an "R". Does anyone know more about this?

Thanks in advance,

Mitch

 

pictures

 

Authentic

I will have it weighed again, because I think it weighs more than what they had told me when I purchased it. (What would you say if it was 3 to 3.5 grams?)

I know, I am in denial!

 

Verification

Where can I have this coin verified for authenticity? That way I can determine if it is a fake or not.

(Let's just say that this is a ral coin, do you know what this may be worth?)

Thanks!