Who likes shipwreck coins?

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by (v), May 23, 2009.

  1. (v)

    (v) Senior Member

    Coins from shipwrecks are not desirable unless they are from famous ones. But some like in this condition are... well not to all...:D

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    These are kinda like curios... who likes something like this? Let me know I am not alone.. :)
     
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  3. FreakyGarrettC

    FreakyGarrettC Wise young snail

    I think it is pretty sweet.
     
  4. (v)

    (v) Senior Member

    BTW these are from the Admiral Gardner shipwreck India Madras Presidency 10 Cash coins. Many of these were recovered and then cleaned. Most were subsequently marketed with a folder of the history of the coins. I will upload some pictures of the folder when I manage to find it.
     
  5. ryanbrooks

    ryanbrooks Active Member

    They look awesome! :thumb: I would love to own these! :)
     
  6. der_meister77

    der_meister77 Senior Member

    Nice historical collectible.
     
  7. ahearn

    ahearn Member

    Nice looking clump with a lot of character.

    Yes, shipwreck coins have a special appeal to me because I'm a history buff first and coin collector second. To know practically the entire history of the coin from the mint to the shipwreck to the discovery and salvage, and why the coins were on the ship makes a coin extremely interesting, although not always numismatically valuable.
     
  8. Moonshadow

    Moonshadow Member

    I agree...and at least the Chinese don't counterfeit stuff like this (yet).
     
  9. weryon

    weryon World traveler - In Thailand

    I’m in the same “ship” as yourself :D PUN INTENDED … I have seen these 1808AG east Indian company coins a lot , I always wanted to pick some up but never found one that I really wanted “eye appeal” … I would defiantly buy a clump like the one in the picture but I will still be waiting a few months before picking one or a few up.
     
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  11. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    I think shipwreck coins will always hold an appeal for people if no other reason than the romance of the idea. I always found the ones where the entire mintage of a given coin went down with the ship the most appealing. Like these 2 -
     

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  12. ryanbrooks

    ryanbrooks Active Member

    Those are absolutely beautiful! :eek:
     
  13. covert coins

    covert coins Coin Hoarder

    I just returned from the Florida Keys and the shipwreck coins are marketed down there quite agressively. All seem quite nice but most are made into jewelry. They seem to be very expensive even when just made of silver. I looked at some of them and in the back of my mind I thought of all the coins I could buy with the money I spent on just one of the shipwrecked coins.
     
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  14. ahearn

    ahearn Member

    It's a fact that buying shipwreck coins in a tourist area is definitely going to cost more money but if you're buying it as a nice momento of your trip and not for numismatic investment purposes, why not?

    Prices on Atocha coins from Mel Fisher's in Key West are outrageous, for example. If you ignore the numismatic perspective, however, and you consider all the salvage time, expense, expertise, frustrations, legal battles (111 court cases), deaths (Fisher's son and daughter-in-law died salvaging the wreck), cleaning, and grading, you have to gain some appreciation for the price you pay. Shipwreck coins are not like other coins in this respect.
     
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  15. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator


    Quite true, but no collector who knows anything about coins will pay 10 times or more what the coins are actually worth either. Only tourist who know absolutely nothing are foolish enough to fall for the sales pitch made by Fisher's group and the like.
     
  16. De Orc

    De Orc Well-Known Member

    I think in a lot of respects they are of more interest to collectors of maritime memrobilia than coin collectors (Tourists aside) I might buy one if it was from a wreck that held interest for me but I am doubtfull if I would pay up to 10x the going rate of a "Normal" Coin
     
  17. goossen

    goossen Senior Member

    lovely stuff! you are not alone ;)
     
  18. rad1964

    rad1964 Senior Member

    Would love to hold that "clump" of coins, now if only 'they' could tell their story!
     
  19. ahearn

    ahearn Member

    In my experience, "tourist" coins are typically about 50%-100% overpriced (Atocha coins excepted), but people who buy these types of shipwreck objects (the objects can be coins or other artifacts) will likely keep them forever and have no interest in the numismatic value. I wouldn't say they are foolish for paying more than numismatic value if their purpose is not collecting or reselling. Heck, people have paid thousands of dollars for chunks of concrete from the Berlin Wall or trinkets from the Titanic.
     
  20. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    My point is this ahearn, a typical coin (silver) from the Atocha sells for say $3000. You can buy the exact same coin for, without the Atocha pedigree for $300 or less.

    I used to live in the Fla. Keys, I knew Mel Fisher, and I am very familiar with the prices the various shops in the Keys charge for those coins even today. I am also quite familiar with current and past market values for Spanish colonial coinage as I collected it for 30 years. I was also the original discoverer of one of the wrecks found in Coffin's Patch, back in 1976. Fully 6 years before it was even reported in the media. So I do know a bit about this subject.
     
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  21. (v)

    (v) Senior Member

    If it helps, each of these shipwreck 1808 Admiral Gardner coins sell for anywhere from $2-$10 depending on the condition. I think I am knowledgeable about the market but still could not resist paying more than $100 for this specimen. :) If these were loose then I would not have paid anything for this, but the sea crust (or whatever it is called) holding these coins together along with the story made me pay this stiff premium to get hold a piece of history.

    Maybe I am a sucker. :D
     
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