Long nock 1878 VAM 79 found in Morgans (Photos)

Double mint mark & long nock 1878 VAM 79 found in Morgans (Photos)

I just bought 96 Morgan Dollars for $13 each. About 60% of them looked low MS with the rest AU or body bag material. After this initial inspection, I looked at the reverses to see if there were many mint marked coins. On page three, I found a clearly double mint mark. You could see it very clearly. There was a C separated horizontally from another distinct C. That’s right, there was an extra fine 1878 CC dollar on page three!

The next night I spent some time looking for VAMs. Please check out these photos depicting the over polished nostril, doubled star, and long nock on this 1878. I believe this one is 1878 VAM 79. [Am I correct?] The coin condition is MS62/63. I’d like to hear from you VAM experts about this one. From what I can find, it has a very low population in MS and I would like to know your opinions about the best venue & price to sell something like this.

I’ll photograph & post some of the other varieties I find in this batch of Morgans.

Very best regards,
Collect89

 

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This is the EF 1878 CC.

 

The only other significant VAM found in this lot (so far) is this 1890 VAM 9. It has a die chip in the G of god.

Very best regards,
collect89

 

Check out the PVC laden book from which I removed the 96 dollars.
Very best regards,
collect89

 

That is sweet!

 

Nice!!!
can you do a photo of the full reverse of the long nock???

 

Hello Jello,

I will take more photos tonight. I will need to remove it from the 2x2 for the photo & prepare the coin for TPG submission.

I've been searching for records of past sales & have not found any recorded sales in MS. I'll let you know what the VAM Website people have to say about population & value.

Very best regards,
collect89

 

population data

Here is the apparent population data for this 1878 VAM 79 Morgan:

PCGS has 21 MS coins.
ANACS has 52 MS coins.
NGC has 16 MS coins.

I suspect that some of these coins have been re-submitted back & forth between the three companies.

Very best regards,
collect89

 

There is a little glare from the 2x2 holder.

 

Very Nice CC!!!!!

 

Great finds! I would say there all correctly attributed. The only thing I found interesting was on your 78' Long nock, the leaves of the olive branch are still connected, but in the VAM 79 they are disconnected. Now I could be wrong, but I believe the disconnected leaves were from over polishing, and not just die wear, which would mean your coin would have to be a different variety.

 

Nice finds, and sounds like a nice price for the dollars as well... CONGRATS!
They certainly are cool looking

 

Hello Raider,
Thanks for focusing on the disconnected leaf. I took your observation back to the VAMWorld guys & they quickly determined that it was not the VAM 79 but rather a VAM 84. The key diagnostic to it being the VAM 84 is that the L in LIBERTY is also quite polished-down.
Very best regards,
collect89

 

That one was a tricky one, those guys at VAMworld are good. Sorry it's not the 79, still a great find though.

 

Actually, the guys at VAMWorld agreed & attributed it as the VAM 79. They even placed my photographs on their page for the VAM 79. You were the one that questioned the non-disconnected leaf.

I wonder what a 1878 VAM 84 is worth in MS62/63?

 

Price History:

1878-P VAM-84 PCGS MS65 eBay $975 1/23/07
1878-P VAM-84 NGC MS62 $86.50 VAMquest 3/07

Here's form VAMworld, I'll see if I can find anything on eBay.

 

Only one at auction (like 4 days left), it looks high AU, and then there's a few BIN.
vam 84, Coins Paper Money, eBay Motors items on eBay.com

 

This is a VAM-84 not a VAM-79. The dash under the first 8 in the date is the main characteristic of an 84. The feather of the arrow not being disconnected makes any 7TF (not 7/0) Long nock either a VAM-83 or 84 and the 83 has a high 1 in the date

 

Yep it's an V84, check posts 13-15.

 

actually all those pictures except for the top one and the bottom one on VAMWorld are pictures of mine in my #2 NGC registry set of B1 Reverse 1878 Morgans that I uploaded on there a couple years ago