Opinions on raw 1923 D peace dollar

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Tater, May 19, 2009.

  1. Tater

    Tater Coin Collector

  2. Avatar

    Guest User Guest



    to hide this ad.
  3. the_man12

    the_man12 Amateur Photographer

    ms64 and really blazing luster!
     
  4. tmoneyeagles

    tmoneyeagles Indian Buffalo Gatherer

    MS64 or 65....
    Although one question, I'd ask the seller
    Between the L and the I in liberty, is that a hair, a scratch, or is it a VAM??? :)
     
  5. Tater

    Tater Coin Collector


    dollars for dounuts its a die crack. The 22-s and 23-d's had a lot of die cracks in this area. But its a fair question to ask the seller.
     
  6. tpsadler

    tpsadler Numismatist

    This is a nice looking coin. For the record all Peace and Morgans are VAMs. Now if this is a coin with a good attribute coin is another story. I think this is at least a MS-63-64 which would be priced correctly if it is the coin shown.

    It is very hard to tell from these photos but it may be an EDS 1H based upon the die crack seen on the Obverse @ the base of the L, this just a wild guess though with these photos. I any case this coin would not command a VAM Premium unless it suites your eye and your collection. :)

    Good luck.
     
  7. Tater

    Tater Coin Collector

    no I'm not after the Vam. I like the coin, it has good color, luster and strike. I am a little worried that on the obverse around the L and Y where the flash hits the plastic thier could be some hairlines. Also on the jaw and neck I see two hits, I think, but they could be on the plastic. I've requested better pics. I'm thinking its a solid 63, but can't give it a 64 yet. I'd need the coin in hand. I think he has it priced right, I'll wait pics and maybe give an offer. What's current market on a 63, both bid and ask?
     
  8. tmoneyeagles

    tmoneyeagles Indian Buffalo Gatherer


    MS63 1923 D Retail:

    MS63 $135
    MS64:$294
    MS65:$1,470

    This coin is a good deal.. :)
     
  9. tpsadler

    tpsadler Numismatist

    Given this Ebay seller and other items he has shown they know this coin is not an MS64 or they would be asking much more. Regardless of your hopes I would not purchase this coin if you are wanting a MS64 .. If these are scratches and not Die Breaks then the $125 cost is excessive. Ask the seller if these are Scratches or Die Breaks, he does enough business with coins to answer this truthfully. If he answers as he does not know then I would pass on this coin. There are plenty like this one at this price, this is a common Peace Dollar.
     
  10. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

  11. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    I think I would need a much better photo before I go anywhere near that coin. No way I can tell if that is AU or MS. And if it is MS, I cant tell whether MS62 or MS63. In addition, there is a decent chance that it was dipped with that blazing silver appearance.
     
  12. tmoneyeagles

    tmoneyeagles Indian Buffalo Gatherer

    7 day return policy!
    Get it in hand, and if you are not completely satisfied, just send it back! :)
     
  13. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    That is like picking up a dead skunk just to confirm that it still smells.
     
  14. tmoneyeagles

    tmoneyeagles Indian Buffalo Gatherer

    Well if this coin, is a coin he wants, than maybe he should make an offer
    If he has any others, that he knows are high grade 63's or 64's, he might want to compare, or take it to a dealer to see what he thinks
    Now, I don't know if I would buy this coin, but if Tater thinks the price is right, and he likes the coin, he can pick up the dead skunk... :D
     
  15. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    Or he could just bid on this very lustrous blast white 1923-D Peace Dollar ICG MS63 on Heritage. My guess is that it doesn't break $100 and the photos are 100x better.

    http://coins.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=29054&Lot_No=26788#photo

    Without the smell.
     
  16. tmoneyeagles

    tmoneyeagles Indian Buffalo Gatherer

    You are right, that one doesn't smell near as bad! :D

    That is a nice coin, that is for sure :)
     
  17. ng230

    ng230 New Member

    The strike on the reverse is very nice from the pic, but the obverse is kinda funny around the head of the Liberty. Again the pic is not large enough to judge. Yes there are some scratches on the obverse cheek and neck. Can't tell much on the hair. It look like a nice slider, but then again Peace do have issues on weak strike. It can be MS 62-63 .
     
  18. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    One word - pass.
     
  19. tpsadler

    tpsadler Numismatist

    For what I can see of the Heritage 1923D Coin it is a much better photo. It also does a fine job displaying luster once you get by all the bag marks. In my opinion this is a coin typically seen in an ICG Holder .. (IMHO usually over graded) (Grade the Coin not the Holder) I think it will bring less or @ the $100 plus the 15% buyers fee, shipping and handling. This coin has zero eye appeal to me. One thing can be said for this coin there is little doubt it is UNC with baggy Luster and a die crack on the Obverse running from the rim to the top of the 1 to the Neck. (Very Typical for 1922 and 1923 Peace Dollars) Really not a good comparision piece .. I think each would have to stand on their own merits.
     
  20. coinman0456

    coinman0456 Coin Collector

    1923 Peace dollar

    haha, lehigh. Why so graphic?:mouth:

    The first clue for me is the " you grade" statement. hmmmm
     
  21. coinman0456

    coinman0456 Coin Collector

    good advice GD.
     
Draft saved Draft deleted

Share This Page