NGC new certification service

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by spock1k, May 13, 2009.

  1. spock1k

    spock1k King of Hearts

    that yells a fool and his money are soon parted. :D

    dont beleive me? read here


    This week, the Numismatic Guaranty Corporation (NGC) and participating vendors are announcing the debut of a new coin service - certification of authenticity of bullion coins that can be held by precious metals Individual Retirement Accounts.

    The main bullion-priced product for which this is expected to be used is the one-ounce gold American Eagle. One requirement of precious metals IRAs is that the merchandise must be stored at an independent facility.

    If an investor is holding a 20-coin tube of American Eagles in an allocated account, for instance, there really isn't any proof that a particular group of 20 coins is the same one originally received for that investor.

    With the new NGC certification, each coin will be encapsulated in a holder that identifies the coin by issuing country, denomination, date, gold purity and content, and by an individual serial number. This makes it possible for each of the 20 coins in this hypothetical example to be specifically identifiable as being the exact same coins as originally received.

    This certification service will cost less than others because NGC will not be grading the coins. It looks like the retail cost for this certification will be about $10-15 per coin. For most knowledgeable investors, this is an unnecessary expense. But, for those who are not as knowledgeable or who are extremely wary, this extra certification of authenticity could be considered as low-cost insurance.


    still not convinced read more here

    http://www.numismaster.com/ta/numis/Article.jsp?ad=article&ArticleId=6679
     
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  3. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Ridiculous......
     
  4. ng230

    ng230 New Member

    NGC found a way to make extra money from other people. Very smart of them to do this, but if I were the holder of these coins, why would I care. It is just bullion and it is a retirement account. But if I were the owener of NGC I would suggest that to make extra money. Too bad PCGS or other complany didn't do that. Hey if it works for NGC, good for them.
     
  5. borgovan

    borgovan Supporter**

    ***Disclaimer*** If anyone here has a pool account or allocated account, I apologize in advance for my ignorance of why this is beneficial for your particular situation. I mean nothing that is said below to be directed toward you. All comments posted below are merely the opinion of the poster, and do not represent the views of CoinTalk, the interwebs, or any other individual or entity.

    /start rant

    You'd have to be a schmuck to have precious metal in an allocated account.

    //end rant
     
  6. (v)

    (v) Senior Member

    as he said...
     
  7. houston3204

    houston3204 Numismatic Consultant

    them -there fools out there.......

    :mouth:hahhahaahah:mouth:.....any thing to take a buck :cool:from collectors!!!! :mad: :crying:
     
  8. byrd740

    byrd740 Numismatist

    I second/third that.
     
  9. Cloudsweeper99

    Cloudsweeper99 Treasure Hunter

    Congratulations! You've discovered the essence of business.
     
  10. spock1k

    spock1k King of Hearts

    lol :D
     
  11. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title]

    It's true. :D
     
  12. spock1k

    spock1k King of Hearts

    no it is nt i still havent discovered it :D
     
  13. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    It's really staring you in the face good Dr. Start your own TPG service and offer to do what NGC does. ;)
     
  14. spock1k

    spock1k King of Hearts

    but i have ethics.

    eureka

    the first thing u need to do is to get rid of ethics and then enter the tpg business :D
     
  15. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins


    lol......
     
  16. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Hmmmm, If I remember correctly the only bullion coins you can keep in the IRA accounts are the US eagle products. If they are just common bullion then what does it matter which coin you have as long as they have the right amounts? And if they are high end graded that you have for "investment" they already have serial numbers that allow identification of specific pieces. What this sounds like is the chance to pay for slabbing with no grading of generic bullion.
     
  17. Cloudsweeper99

    Cloudsweeper99 Treasure Hunter

    Good point. The only reason I can think of is that it might be easier to have your coins returned in the event the custodian goes out of business without enough bullion to satisfy all account holders. In that case, specific identification might be handy, although expensive.
     
  18. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    So, Spock, do you have the ability to spot counterfeit AGEs?

    Does anyone who doesn't have that skill and still wants to buy AGEs, yet not worry about the authenticity of same, a "fool"?

    Just wondering....Mike (who is not so quick to judge others)
     
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