"Stolen" Photos on Ebay

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  1. Luis

    Luis Senior Member

    http://www.readnotify.com/readnotify/notary.asp
     
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  3. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    Fully, the originals are form Philly, the new are CC's.
     
  4. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    The original lot was pulled.
     
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  6. Numiscent

    Numiscent Member

    That is a GREAT idea. I'll have to remember that. In the meantime, I will pray that I find someone hotlinking images from my website. (I think that's the right term.)
     
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  8. Luis

    Luis Senior Member

    It is just a way of doing what I mentioned, that thing of making sure that you sent the e-mail. Electronic communication offers possibilities that a simple letter doesn't, but still, for a normal e-mail, proving all those things can be very hard indeed. This way, in practice, I guess you're right, in that it'd be hard to notarize a normal e-mail.
     
  9. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

    Its even better than that. Microsoft has paid trolls that troll up places like comp.os.linux.advocacy and http://www.slashdot.com and every mailing list I ever ran. Their darn good at what they do as well.

    Ruben
     
  10. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slashdotted

    The Slashdot effect, also known as slashdotting, is the phenomenon of a popular website linking to a smaller site, causing the smaller site to slow down or even temporarily close due to the increased traffic. The name stems from the huge influx of web traffic that results from the technology news site Slashdot linking to websites. The effect has been associated with other websites or metablogs such as Fark, Drudge Report and Digg, leading to terms such as being Farked or Drudged and the Digg effect. Typically, less robust sites are unable to cope with the huge increase in traffic and become unavailable – common causes are lack of sufficient data bandwidth, servers that fail to cope with the high number of requests, and traffic quotas. Sites that are maintained on shared hosting services often fail when confronted with the Slashdot effect.
     
  11. Luis

    Luis Senior Member

    This is very interesting, Ruben. Thanks for sharing.

    BTW, any input on the legal status of e-mails and the like?
     
  12. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

    Strictly speaking the law is very clear. The individual creating any email or anything has a 99 year copyright on it, lock stock and barrel. If we enforced copyright law as it is written, not only would the entire internet and every library in the country collapse, but Western Civilization would be driven into the dark ages. It's just crazy.

    Ruben
     
  13. Luis

    Luis Senior Member

    Maybe, but copyright only protects the expression of an idea, not the idea itself. Proper reference to the rightful owner of the expression of the idea (if using the same expression) suffices to respect copyright, too.

    What about the issue of an e-mail being admissible in court or not?
     
  14. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

    Yeah - but that is not helpful because of three reasons: Inability to copy information makes learning it and finding it when it is needed completely useless. Many forms of information are completely worthless unless they are copied (explain the meaning of Mickey Mouse without an image, or the artistic value of "Rockie Raccoon"). Thirdly, Copyright has become so extreme that viewing information is now a violation of copyright unless you have the express permission to do so.

    Ruben
     
  15. mrbrklyn

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  16. Luis

    Luis Senior Member

    My context is academia. Here you don't have to ask permission for anything (kinda), just give credit where credit is due. But if we're talking about images, movies, music, or other sorts of things, then you're right, in theory. In practice, though, you must also account for fair use, which is what happens in many situations. Showing an image of Mickey Mouse for the sake of explaining what it is is fair use. Including the image in a book or CD and make money out of it is not. It is in this situation that copyright is actually enforced. Woudl you agree?
     
  17. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member


    Yeah that is not right and I can quote 100's of examples starting with the Fenton papers on CSS.

    Ruben
     
  18. Luis

    Luis Senior Member

  19. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

    You can't display it without downloading it. It is in your browser cache. You can do what those other weirdos did to Persian where they put code into Apache that would redirect the image if the REFERRER variable wasn't acceptable. Let me tell you, Time Warner and their ilk HATE the internet. It destroys their monopoly on information with a million paper cuts.

    Ruben
     
  20. Luis

    Luis Senior Member

    I am not familiar with this example and got mixed results on google (in fact I have no time to look into it right now). But academic work is inherently different than artistic work, in that its purpose is to be shared AND used by others. The condition is that the expression of an idea cannot be used without referring to the proper source and author.
     
  21. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

    Not under the law.
     
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