will Lightly lacquered coins grade

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  1. spock1k

    spock1k King of Hearts

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  3. bhp3rd

    bhp3rd Die varieties, Gems

    No but remove the lacquered and they might

    No but remove the lacquer and they might.
    A quick dip in Acetone should do it.
     
  4. spock1k

    spock1k King of Hearts

    unfortunately ultra rarities cant be dipped at home in acetone even if there is less than 1% chance of screwup. i thought some of you got ur laquered coins graded. if not ncs will make another killing of me :(
     
  5. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

  6. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    "will Lightly lacquered coins grade"

    No, not with the lacquer on them they won't.

    However, if you remove it and the coin looks natural, it stands a chance. I've seen them go both ways.
     
  7. coppercoins

    coppercoins certifiably unstable

    The key here is plausible deniability. If the coin doesn't appear to have lacquer on it the graders will (and have) sometimes miss it and will grade the coins. Best to not let the possible happen and just remove the lacquer.
     
  8. spock1k

    spock1k King of Hearts

    what if a laquered coin goes to NCS what are your thoughts then? The indian mints use to lacquer coins
     
  9. Boss

    Boss Coin Hoarder

    So far all the lacquered coins I have tried to remove the lacquer from has been frustrating. I had to soak some coins about 2 weeks straight in total. Used acetone, paint thinner, MEK, and xylene. Xylene has worked the best. All coins were scratched, hairlined, etc. I put them in albums hoping they tone and calm down. Send to NCS if your sure the mint did it. Otherwise I think we have been tricked by lacquered coins.
     
  10. spock1k

    spock1k King of Hearts

    100% the mint did it but NCS will cost an arm and a leg not to mention who will send it to NCS on my behalf as ia m unable to do so myself. i think it will just be an ordeal i think it will be better just to take a bath and forget the coin ever existed
     
  11. Boss

    Boss Coin Hoarder

    Why can't you send to NCS Spock?
     
  12. spock1k

    spock1k King of Hearts

    well i am overseas thats why :( and the coin is in the us
     
  13. mralexanderb

    mralexanderb Coin Collector

    I'm sure SGS or GEC will grade it a MS 70.

    Bruce
     
  14. spock1k

    spock1k King of Hearts

    i never knew people sent ultra rarities there but i guess you live and learn ;)
     
  15. Boss

    Boss Coin Hoarder

    Spock: sounds like a coin worth the effort. Maybe someone here could get to the coin and submit it. Family? Friends? I personally hate the idea of lacquer. After soaking coins for over 100-200 hours and still not getting all the lacquer off. At least should end up with no marks scratches, etc., assuming the mint did not damage.
     
  16. Just Carl

    Just Carl Numismatist

    Just curious why not wait until your here? None of my buisness but how is it the coin is here and your not? If the coin is not for sale, then why have it slabbed anyway? Why even attempt to remove the Laquer since you really don't know what it is on the coin and may well mess it up. If Laquer thinner will not remove it, it may well be some other type of substance that when removed may damage the coin. The only reason I'd slab a rare of expensive coin is if was to be sold otherwise I would appreciate it as it is.
     
  17. FreakyGarrettC

    FreakyGarrettC Wise young snail

    I will if you need me to. I am a member of NGC. :thumb:
    EDIT: check your PM.
     
  18. ice

    ice Just happy to be here

    Getting the lacquer off the coins will be tough my brother had some buffalos that had been lacquered and I soaked and soaked them I finally used some ensolv that got the last of it off. That stuff is just super hard to get off. Ice
     
  19. HandsomeToad

    HandsomeToad Urinist

    If the mint laquered them, NCS should know that and it shouldn't hurt the grade and even if they don't know it, they can easily remove it and they have the best chance of getting it off without hurting the coin. :thumb:

    Ribbit :)
     
  20. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    If the coin is an ultra rarity from India, do you really need NGC's opinion on the topic? Just playing devil's advocate here, but the question should be asked....Mike
     
  21. Boss

    Boss Coin Hoarder

    Question for Carl: I know you use Classic Whitman albums for all you coins x some 60 years. How in the world have they not toned like crazy? What do you collect and what is the RH for the air surrounding the coins. I go to pretty extreme lengths for my red coppers and they are still toning. As for Spock (sorry I digressed) I think his rarity would be worth signifcantly more with lacquer off and graded. I enjoy graded and album stored coins both. I am essentially collecting two sets of most of my stuff- Dansco albums and PCGS/NGC sets.
     
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