More self slabbers are being born everyday.

You can't use the positioning of the text and double eagle on the hologram for determining authenticity of th slab because they DO tend to drift in positioning on genuine slabs.

 

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Holy cow I'm going to coinholderman and starting up grading service. Potential is unlimited, and it'll be called PCCS: practically crap certification service. big money here I come, no whammies!!!!

 

I would have the best name of all TPG's, since it would be TPG's - Toad's Professional Grading Service.

Ribbit

 

Hey PG? Did you save a pic of the obverse of the 1912 coin/slab we've been discussing? I'd like to see it to run diagnostics on it to see if that's where the tells are that it's a counterfeit. I didn't save pics so I'm hoping you did.

Ribbit

 

Was that a slabbed 2009D Cent? If so what grade & Why did they slab it?

 

Yup here it is:

 

Funny, all six of my PCGS slabs from this period are spot on identical. I have other PCGS slabs with different reverse's but NONE have the St. Gaudens coin image. They are from different periods I would think.

Like I said, something made this guy claim it a fake right off, what the heck was it????

I really want to know so I don't buy something fake in the future, any pointers from your experience (which is LOT more than mine)??

 

That is the main error to this story. Never, ever, EVER, sell a coin, car, boat, plane, house or anything to someone you know. A relative is even worse.
Your friend is not happy with you now. Of course not. Even if you sell something to someone you know for $1 and it is worth $1,000 they would still end up thinking you cheated them. Just a bad practice.

 

But couldn't this be attributed to possibly PCGS having China slab some of their coins. Outsourcing is big now you know.

 

Uhg!:headbang::desk:

 

That's the reverse! :goof: The obverse is the one with the writing on it about the coin.

Ribbit

 

You've been hanging around Phoenix too much! :goof:

Ribbit :whistle:

 

lol I was automatically thinking you wanted to see the reverse, even though you typed obverse. Actually no, I didn't save that image.

sorry

 

By what I read on PCGS's website, the obverse label has tells on it, with font, spacing, and placement. But either way, if Ron Guth says it's a counterfeit slab, I will trust him over anyone and if he ever makes a mistake, well, I can point my finger his way.

Ribbit

 

So this Ron guy did actually say it was a fake slab?

 

I'm glad I am not the only person who never heard of him. lol

But yes, he did say without hesitation that it was a fake slab, he made no comment about the coin inside (which would be unnecessary I think).

 

Ron Guth said, "Definitely a fake holder."

The coins found inside fake holders have all been fakes, as far as I've seen, so this one is most likely no different.

Ribbit

Ps: Ron Guth is the person to send suspect PCGS slabs to:

http://www.pcgs.com/articles/article_view.chtml?artid=5286&universeid=313

 

Ok, wow!

 

Sadly, I read that PCGS is not releasing details of all of the fake slabs to prevent the people creating these "works of art" from modifying them accordingly to avoid widespread detection.

This is why you will not find anything on the slab we are discussing which (given the details posted online) identify it as a fake. It must be a new generation fake slab or something. I looked around quite a bit yesterday.

 

I can understand the reasoning but it still sucks. I'd like to know the skinny on them so I can spot them when I run across them.

Ribbit