Silver Certificates Small Size have some intrigue!

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The Series 1934C Silver Certificates are being found with 2 varities, wide and narrow. This is happening on $5-$10 Small size notes.
Lately I have been on a search to find some and I am finding grading companies that have graded notes while missing the variety all together.
The "narrow" variety is appearing to be the scarcer of the two.

Here is a Gem 66 Note graded by CGA that missed the "Wide" variety totally.

Check your Schwartz/Lindquist 8th Edition for details on the two varieties!

And keep your eyes open for them...once you know where to look it is simple to pick them out!!


Enjoy this Gem $10


RickieB

 

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all right, I'm not a paper guru, so I'll ask: wide and narrow what? and could you post examples of the two side by side for comparison?

 

Hey BQ....

Look at the bottom right "10" (right corner) the distance away from the internal margin (tiny white internal border) is very small. Now look at the upper left corner...the gap is much wider, that is the way a "Wide" note will apper in the lower right corner..you can see the difference right away!


RickieB

 

I only see one 10. Think I know what you're talking about. I remember with the 5's it's something super minor too like if you look at the little 'curly thing' down by the '5 numeral' in the lower right in the note, one might have an extra stripe or be just slightly wider. Personally I feel that the wide/narrow thing on the $5's is way too minor a design change to make a difference in what the note is worth. Not sure on the 10's since I'm not seeing the example...

 

Dursin... the 4 tens on the reverse of the note! One in each corner area...
The bottom right 10 is the one I am talking about...LOL


Yes you are right about the 5's...it is exactly that!!
I have 2 consecutive $5 Silver Cert Stars with the narrow indication!!
Much rarer than the wide, but I have a wide star as well.!!


RickieB

 

Here is an image of my wide $10 note... the narrow variety is dang near touching the margin inside. The Red point is showing the gap in the Wide note...if it were narrow..it would be touching almost to the side.

Also the face and back plate numbers doubled in size from the Series 1934 Note to all following Series for this denomination. The Series 1934 have a micro number!
RickieB

 

I pulled out all my 10's and I still can't see the difference. Don't see the difference on the 5's either though unless someone enlarges them like 5X.

 

So, are there only a few notes which have the narrow back then? Looks like all mine are wide, regardless of whether it's a 1928 Gold Certificate or a 1991 FRN.

 

Shall we continue the confusion RickieB?

Back plate numbers? Now you're getting into mules and while we're at it I wonder if there are crossover pairs.

I'll let you explain. After all YOU started it!

 

Sure Clembo...happy to!


Series 1934 Silver Certs Mule's:

The Mule issue is simply as follows;
Source: Schwartz/Linquist 8th edition

"They are the Series 1934 notes with the larger back plate numbers (585) of higher, and are actually Series 1934 Faces on Series 1934A backs."


Series 1934 A Mules:

"The Series 1934 A notes with the micro back plate numbers (584) and lower are actually Series 1934A faces on Series 1934 backs.
Back plate numbers used are #404, 523,553 and 578"

This is directly from Schwartz/Linquist 8th edition:


RickieB

 

this is fun

informative too!! while wide/narrow debate is a good learnign experience, and cherry picking the scarcer note is a good way to make some profit... you have to have alot of patience to do it i lack such things lol

 

You done good RickieB!

 

This all reminds me of the people who collect Morgan VAM's. imho it gets dangerously close to crossing the line between collecting to some sort of numismatic OCD. That said, until people start trying to collect every single possible front/back plate combination, it's nowhere near as bad as the VAM stuff!

 

Paper money is a TOTALLY different animal so be careful what you say.
Tons of variables and if taken too seriously can make VAM'S or Overtons look like child's play except for possibly the price tag.

I have a rather impressive collection of 295 errors if I do say so myself. Most people have no clue what they are but there are about 330 known combinations. I have about 300.

I also knew a guy that wanted to complete a set of 1988-A $1 notes by block and run. OVER 1,000 different combinations. Had he gotten into front and back plates I shudder to think!
I was actually able to contribute 4 notes to his set and it was an honor actually. What an undertaking!

Depending on what variables one was looking for some sets can be accomplished. Expand further it gets more difficult. Toss in a few more variables and Bill Gates MIGHT be able to afford it.

You've scared me just making me think about it.

 

Truer words never spoken.... I have just done theMath on my collection for the past 3 years and I am wondering where it is that I got the $$$$ from...LOL
WOW...and yes, I did not show my wife!!

RickieB

 

Very informative thread. I enjoyed it and learned a bit more about this interesting hobby of collecting notes. Your not making this easy Rickie..

 

Covert wait until you start counting the engraving marks on the "narrow" $5

LOL...

It is a real hunt if you know what I mean!!


RickieB

 

If I can make one recommendation about collecting wide and narrow varieties, it is to learn the plate serials for each design type so you can stop counting the lines in the curl or having to compare the space betwen the '10' and the border. Much, much easier...

Here is some information about the $5 SC 1934C narrows:

http://www.smallsizefives.com/1934Cnarrow.html

 

Thank you RickiB! The picture was worth a thousand words. I see the difference between narrow and wide now. I've seen the differences in the $5's, but what about $1's, $20's, $50's. Do they have some similar patterns? I mean are there wides and narrows there too?

 

I am not 100% certain..maybe someone else knows?
I know the $5 and $10's have this difference.

Good luck.

RickieB