1897-P Morgan - Unknown VAM?

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by HandsomeToad, Mar 28, 2009.

  1. HandsomeToad

    HandsomeToad Urinist

    Howdy peeps, :)

    I purchased a 1897-P Morgan some time ago and got to looking at it today and realized there's something more to it but I can't find anything on it on VamWorld.


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    It was labeled a VAM-5, with a doubled 18 in the date but on the reverse, IN GOD WE TRUST has a weak E in WE and weak R in TRUST. Does anyone know anything about this, since VamWorld doesn't say anything about it?

    Ribbit :)
     
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  3. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member



    I LOVE your bird...
     
  4. HandsomeToad

    HandsomeToad Urinist

    Here are 2 more pics of the IGWT area:


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    There are also die chips in the S of TRUST. :kewl:

    Ribbit :)
     
  5. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder Supporter

    Hi Toad, you know I'm not a Morgan guy, but I was going to tentatively suggest that some foreign matter- grease?- may have found its way into those 2 letters. I'm sure a Morganologist will have a more insightful idea.

    How did you obtain those highly magnified, but extremely sharp images? I'm impressed!
     
  6. HandsomeToad

    HandsomeToad Urinist

    I posted this on VAM World and someone said grease filled die also but then, what about the die chips and obvious recutting of IGWT? I think there's more to it than just a grease filled die but I can't prove it. ;)

    As to the pics, I use a Sony DSC-H7 camera and it has a built in macro feature. Just point and shoot. :D Ribbit :)
     
  7. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder Supporter

    Thanks, Ribbit. Hope you can solve this coin conundrum!
     
  8. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

    So what VAM is it?
     
  9. jgrinz

    jgrinz Senior Member

    They do not assign VAM's for strike throughs to my knowledge and that is my assessment of the coin also.
     
  10. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor

    I agree with the VAM 5 assessment and filled letters. The recutting on the reverse would only be important if it was different from the reverses of the other 1897 P reverses ( all were C3a reverses). If the reverse die had pitting, then that would lead to a separate VAM, but if all had recutting then no separate VAMs.

    Jim
     
  11. HandsomeToad

    HandsomeToad Urinist

    It doesn't look like any other VAM than the 5 for the date. :( I'm not into Morgans so I know very little about the VAM's, except what I read on here. ;)

    I was hoping! :D

    Ribbit :)
     
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