Does CAC keep a record of coins that don’t pass?

I have a few coins that didn’t pass on first submission. I’d like to submit again them for reconsideration when I submit my next batch, but that may be pointless if they check the cert number and see it’s already been rejected.

Does anybody know if they keep a record of rejected coins’ cert numbers?

 

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I have no idea (never CAC'd anything), but I'd also like to know if they keep a record of coins they have stickered, and if that is accessible by mere mortals such as us. It would help verify the validity of a coin that has a CAC sticker that may be questionable (I'm thinking of a specific Morgan from another thread that has a misspelled word on the label).

 

Yes they do keep a record of coins that have passed. You can look up here https://www.caccoin.com/lookup/

 

You can check CAC verification online:

https://www.caccoin.com/lookup/

 

I'm going to guess that they don't keep a record (it would have to be a photographic record, right ?) of coins that didn't make the cut.

They have such high standards they probably figure if you want to re-submit and pay the fees again, do so. If the coin didn't make it on the 1st try, unless they (JA) made a big mistake the 1st try, it's not going to make it on the 2nd.

If it did, problem corrected, and they made more $$$.

 

Yes, they keep a record of coins that do not pass.

No, you do not have access to that record (for obvious reasons).

You can find the census of coins which did pass at the link shared above.

 

I brain-farted, forgot all the identifying info on the slab, so of course they can keep a record that way. Only if you changed holders would they not have a record of the coin.

Thanks, PF.

 

call cac and review the piece with them. they are very accommodating. maybe save the effort and expense, if the review answers your questions. if you are going to crack it out, and then submit all over again to a tpg and then try cac again, i would want to do so after a review. i would have a bit more information at the very least, gto make that decision, which is never a bad thing.

sure, cac makes errors, but they correct them when it is brought to their attention.

 

Yes they keep a record of the ones that don't pass (fairly easy to do using the cert number). Occasionally coins that failed will receive a sticker in a future attempt but that is not common.

 

Yes, they do. I know because I had just bought a 1909-s v.d.b. MS65 rb from Blanchard and knew that the founder of CAC worked for them as well. I had also recently purchased an 1877 1c ms-65 rb from APMEX and mentioned it to the helpful sales guy who handled my 1909-s vdb purchase.He asked me to take a picture of the 1877 holder and told me he would get back to me. He did via e-mail the next day. He told me my 1877 had indeed been submitted and *sob* rejected for a CAC bean.

 

And this is why they don't usually tell you if a coin had been rejected.

"Rejected" by CAC is treated as a death knell for a coin. Rejected does not mean that it has problems, rejected does not mean it is improperly graded. A rejected coin very well be absolutely pristine, original, and attractive. It just means that its on the lower end for the grade - a 65 coin which is worth a 65 price.

If buyers knew a coin was rejected by CAC, there's a very high chance that buyers would also reject the coin and it would trade at a discount, without any good reason.

 

That's how I saw it as well. Is a PCGS graded coin and the grade was simply a fair one.

 

Then when a coin fails and you let some time pass and resubmit it they'll catch it in their failed database?

 

They look at it again but I'm fairly sure they check their database (some coins sticker on a future attempt but it is not common).

 

Thanks, didn't know that.

 

It's my understanding that CAC keeps a record of coins that didn't sticker on a database. It would be nice to know before I submit a coin, whether or not it has ever been submitted before. Apparently they don't share that information? It would certainly save a lot of time and effort and expense if that database were shared. Like punch in the certification number to find out yes or no. I'll bet a lot of dealers tell you their coins haven't been submitted when in fact they have and they have been rejected. Just a wild hunch.