Featured An examination of the counterfeit slab epidemic. Scope and advice.

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by TypeCoin971793, Feb 20, 2020.

  1. ignacio de la cruz

    ignacio de la cruz New Member

    The toned Morgan in the holder is genuine. I have the NGC certification that says the piece is totally genuine in its original holder. the seem if it was tinified within the Holder. A and I have proof of many other same coins that misspelled the word Treassury. Before making these comments please inform yourself well. I was the designer of that beautiful piece. unique and exclusive for so many errors. I think I made a mistake the day I sold it.
     
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  3. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Please link to which coin you are referring too.
     
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  4. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    Okay, explain this: How can a slab with the same serial number have two different coins in it? Plus the toning patterns are impossible to have been one coin turned to another (gassed). The shapes of the peripheral toning on the reverse don’t match up!

    Employees at NGC (NGC! Not some internet crackpot) condemned this slab as fake when we discussed it. I informed myself well. Find me a better source than that. I’ll wait
     
  5. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    He’s talking about this.

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  6. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    I'm sticking with my original thought from earlier in this thread:

    One of my guesses is that it was sent for reholdering along with another coin and the certs were switched up. The spelling mistake I've seen before on others.

    I also considered the possibility of the slab being cracked, the coin replaced, and then resealed. However, the spelling mistake makes me think that is less likely (for this theory to hold, I would expect the label to match exactly to how it looked in the cert lookup).

    Another possibility is that two coins were slabbed with the same exact cert number on accident.
     
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  7. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    Couterfeiter's Dream.

    TRUST THE SLAB, NOT THE COIN.
     
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  8. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    I'm sorry for your loss - of sanity. There is nothing worse than someone who has just been informed they were snookered and still insist they weren't.
     
  9. usmc 6123

    usmc 6123 Active Member

    Keep buying fake coins. I hope you buy them all.
     
  10. usmc 6123

    usmc 6123 Active Member

    On a grim note if 99% of people on the street can't tell the difference(like me) and you are hoarding silver for when shtf. You should hoard fake coins there cheaper to get.





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  11. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    My contact at NGC says the slab with that serial number was never reholdered.

    The labels being different means that can’t be the case.

    My contact at NGC says this can’t happen because of safeguards put in place.
     
  12. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    Why reward counterfeiters by paying them for their wares?

    There is no logic in this. Plus you are recommending people to commit fraud and felonies. Go keep your “ideas” to yourself so someone else doesn’t get hurt.
     
  13. Beefer518

    Beefer518 Well-Known Member

  14. usmc 6123

    usmc 6123 Active Member

    There is logic in my statement. Please think before you respond. If the shtf fraud will be the least of your daily things to deal with. Free speech is why I don't keep my ideas to myself. Do you know what hypothetical means?
     
  15. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    Your logic:

    “The world is going to pot. Genuine coins are too expensive. Buy fake coins instead. Then sell them as real silver because no one can tell the difference.”

    That tells me that not only are you a terrible person and a joke of a “dealer”, you are a complete nutjob. If the world goes as bad as you feebly imagine it will, people would care more about food, water, shelter, and gasoline. Silver and gold (counterfeit or not) would be useless.

    Free speech is one thing. Encouraging people to engage in illegal activities is another, and that is not Constitutionally-protected speech. The excuse of “when the world ends no one would care” would hardly hold up in court. What you have posted above is ample cause to report you to the secret service for conspiracy to commit fraud. Good luck
     
  16. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    I will never understand why some people seem to think that if the world fell apart people would be peacefully trading gold and silver when the reality is they would be trading lead in the massive riots that would occur.
     
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  17. whopper64

    whopper64 Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the informative article.
     
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  18. Maxfli

    Maxfli Well-Known Member

    This is correct. Bullets and bread will be the currency of the apocalypse, not gold and silver. Doomsday preppers should be stacking ammo boxes and canned goods.
     
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  19. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    So it's not the same coin? I just assumed it had been dipped before encapsulation, and toned inside the holder.
     
  20. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    not the same coin
     
  21. mike estes

    mike estes Well-Known Member

    one of the best informative article ive read on this problem. great job TypeCoin971793
     
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