Please advise!

Discussion in 'What's it Worth' started by PersianGuy, Mar 16, 2009.

  1. PersianGuy

    PersianGuy my.will.is.good

    You think I should wait until I have signature confirmation that he has received the coin? He could pull a fast one I suppose and not accept it.

    just trying to think about a possible scenario
     
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  3. bhp3rd

    bhp3rd Die varieties, Gems

    I think maybe you just got a $79 lesson.

    I think maybe you just got a $79 lesson. I hate to say it but I don't fight things like you guys do - I would chalk it up to experience, never buy from him again and move on - life is too short. You can of course fight all you want but it's not that expensive a lesson - I've had a lot worse. Plus you guys please don't rebuke me for this, this is how I do business I move on and fight a lot less and stay at peace a lot more.
     
  4. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

    No - pull out all the guns NOW and contact paypal .

    CONTACT PAYPAL NOW. They can reverse the charge.
     
  5. PersianGuy

    PersianGuy my.will.is.good

    ok one last email...

    BEFORE I pull out the guns.... I just sent him this

    Dear XXXXX,

    Well you certainly didn't mention a "restocking fee" in your listing, and I will tell you again, if you refund the auction, there are NO ebay or paypal fees you will be responsible for.

    I paid $17.80 to get the coin back to you overnight (to make sure the three days requirement is met, not that I am asking for that obviously, but I am already in this auction for that amount) and I do not think I should be responsible for yet another $79. because the auction is misleading and that coin is not MS. I have more than a dozen MS-63 to MS-66 coins and I compared it carefully to all of them. It is not the original luster, there has been cleaning or tampering I assure you. I encourage you to do the same. I really don't want to get into a negative exchange with you sir, I am sure you are an honest and trustworthy seller.

    I just don't understand why I should be penalized for something I had no part in ,I am not in the business of making trouble, check my feedback!
     
  6. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member


    Your painting yourelf into a corner with this. It you think this guy is nice, he isn't. He's a crook. If he mugged you in an alley way it would be no different. Go the the resolution center on ebay now your you risk losing not just 80 bucks, but every penny.

    Ruben
     
  7. PersianGuy

    PersianGuy my.will.is.good

    You are probably spot on about this guy, I was hoping to appeal to his good side by humoring him a bit, so that he will do the right thing, and promptly. I think inside he knows this coin is not what he presents it as. Trust me I am P***ed, I'm just gonna try one.last.time to resolve this peacefully.

    This way I won't maybe have to go through a lengthy resolution process.

    This is his last chance, and I will contact Ebay and Paypal.
     
  8. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

    The resolution process is a lot less lengthy that this friendly banter with him.

    Ruben
     
  9. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

    Ok - but I continue to buy great coins on the internet.

    Ruben
     
  10. PersianGuy

    PersianGuy my.will.is.good

    Wow fast!

    I logged into USPS just now and it seems to me he has received the coin:

    Bullet Arrival at Unit, March 17, 2009, 10:34 am, LAUREL, MS 39440
    Bullet Processed, March 17, 2009, 9:19 am, HATTIESBURG, MS 39402
    Bullet Processed, March 17, 2009, 5:46 am, MOBILE, AL 36675
    Bullet Acceptance, March 16, 2009, 7:16 pm, HARTFORD, CT 06199
    Bullet Processed, March 16, 2009, 3:15 pm, HARTFORD, CT 06199

    Damn they are fast! I only sent this out last night at 7PM (it cost $17. but still)
     
  11. PersianGuy

    PersianGuy my.will.is.good

    ok thid guy is really too much.

    As I said in the previous post he has signed for the coin, he now has it in hand. I received this ebay message from him:

    Dear mofrad,

    my opinion it is ms I will refund the money as soon as you leave feedback thanks


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    Ok I am ready to do something here. Is it best to contact Ebay first or Paypal??

    Thanks

    **UPDATE**
    I have opened a dispute in PAYPAL. I guess he has to respond before I can escalate it.

    *waits*

     
  12. Andrew67

    Andrew67 Clueless

    Good luck.:thumb:
     
  13. tdec1000

    tdec1000 Coin Rich, Money Poor :D

    DONT LEAVE FEEDBACK UNTIL EVERYTHING IS ALL SAID AND DONE!!!

    He won't get 10% if you file a paypal claim. Even go as far as calling paypal a day or so later if need be. Tom You will get your money it might just take a little bit. But whatever you do don't start threating him with negitive feedback. If you need to leave it that is good because he can't leave neg back. Believe me I know...I am a so called powerseller. Tom
     
  14. PersianGuy

    PersianGuy my.will.is.good

    Thanks, that is reassuring. I know not to threaten bad feedback, and I have not even brought the issue up. He is the one asking me to leave him positive feedback BEFORE I get the refund. What does he think I am an idiot???

    I will give him 24 hours to respond, and then I am escalating this on Paypal.

    I have my Receipt of shipment, all our correspondence was through Ebay's "Ask seller a question" so that should be available to them as well, especially where he asks me (unethically) to post feedback and then he will refund.

    I am hopeful
     
  15. Andrew67

    Andrew67 Clueless



    I think your gonna do alright. Just be patient.
     
  16. Arizonamike1

    Arizonamike1 Coin Collector

    1886 -O Morgan Silver Dollar

    Your worries about your Morgan Dollar appear to be unfounded. I have collected for years and have many, many Morgans and your coin seems to be fine from what I can tell in your two pictures. Keep your coin or coins sealed and protected and moisture free! Moisture will destroy your coins more then you know. Coin Supply sites sell anti-moisture packs to take care of these problems. Remember... the more you collect the more you will learn. Good luck and have fun. It's a great hobby, a little expensive and very addictive.
    Have a great day,
    Arizonamike1
     
  17. PersianGuy

    PersianGuy my.will.is.good


    Wow you are the first one to say that. I can tell you this, I have quite a few slabbed MS60 - MS66 Morgans and it is quite obvious that the luster on this coin he sent is much much different. It does look dipped actually. Hopefully when he does relist thie coin on Ebay he finds someone such as yourself to take it off his hands. I am washing my hands of this shady guy AND his coin. I want my $799. back, plain and simple. He offers a refund within 3 days, I had the coin to him in less than 24 Hours.
    One thing you are right about, I am learning every day.

    Thanks
     
  18. PersianGuy

    PersianGuy my.will.is.good

    *update*

    :loud:

    Ok so this morning I filed a claim with paypal. At first I did this as a mediated resoultion, where PAYPAL sends him an email and we maybe work things out ourselves. At 1:30 this afternoon I upgraded it to an investigation.

    just now I received this notice from PAYPAL:


    Transaction date: Mar 12, 2009
    Transaction amount: -$811.00 USD
    Your transaction ID: 44N981848D9268050
    Case number: PP-656-540-307


    The seller has agreed to your requested refund amount.

    Thank you for your cooperation.

    Sincerely,
    Protection Services Department

    ---

    What a relief!

    Thanks everyone who gave me advice, I really appreciate it.

    The seller soon after emailed me and asked why I had filed a claim when he said that he would refund my money.

    Yea "after you leave me feedback" was what he actually told me .



    Boy have I learned a lesson... :(
     
  19. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    He was going to lose anyway. It was easier for him just to pay it and not get on PayPal's bad side.
     
  20. the_man12

    the_man12 Amateur Photographer

    and me
     
  21. weryon

    weryon World traveler - In Thailand

    Hera !!!! you win
     
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