Anyone else bid on any coins from the new auction house Münzhandlung Dr. Dominik Elkowicz 3

Though, they had a lot of overpriced coins (almost every RR had a minimum of 60€), they also had some little buddies and babies for really cheap!
With a name like Dr. Dominik, I couldn't help myself but think of Springfield and The Simpsons own Dr. Nick


I had a couple main targets that I'll try to share once they arrive. But when I saw some really fun coins going for 10 and 15€ I couldn't resist.
Check em out

I gave my recently found long lost sister (23 and me) my only dolphin when she told me how much she loved dolphins. So this cutie was a no brainer:

Sarmatia, Cast Bronze Dolphin Coinage, c. 425-350 BC, 18 mm, 0,95 g

This was listed as Ant pius... but those curls sure look like Marcus Aurelius to me. And since I gave papa ryro my only MA sest, I thought taking a chance couldn't hurt. Help on this one is appreciated:

Antoninus Pius (138-161), Rome
31 mm, 20,01 g

Now this one I believe IS Ant Pius, I don't have any big coins of his and it has a rad reverse:

Dupondius Æ
Antoninus Pius (138-161), Rome
24 mm, 10,77 g

I love Domna! What a tragic figure, big honking coin and fun hippy reverse:

Julia Domna (193-218), Juno, Rome 209 AD
20 mm, 3,30 g
RIC IV 559

And as you all know LRBs are my primary area of study and expertise, as I'm writing my masters thesis on them. Jk. It's a severed head of Sol. I bought it for the severed head. I've wanted one of these since @Roman Collector posted his FAAARRR superior version in my first coins that go bump in the night thread. https://www.cointalk.com/threads/coins-that-go-bump-in-the-night.324528/

Maximinus II Daia, Antioch (309-313)
20 mm, 4,68 g

So, did anyone else participate, have you even heard of this guy (there seemed to be very little participation), thoughts on my eclectic snack purchases or similar types and or anything else is appreciated

 

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I have. One AV tari of southern Italy, c. later 11th c., imitating Fatimid ones of Sicily. And we've corresponded. Dr. Elkowicz is Solid, Good People. Couldn't find anything of immediate interest in that last auction, but, starting with his professional integrity, I can't recommend him more highly.
...And the tari arrived fast enough to take me by surprise.

 

Oh, thanks so much, that's great to read!
The couple that I didn't share I'm excited about
... do we get to see your AV tari of southern Italy

 

...BTW, those are Terrific coins! ...Serious Congratulations on finding your sister. (23&me just updated my ancestral profile, reconfirming ('residual') West African descent.* The technology --especially from effectively commercial outfits-- is in its infancy, but at the level of one generation, you'd expect them to get it right. Thank you, the First time.
*...Well, Fine, except, I also have solidly documented descent from Edward I, Philippe III Capet, Friedrich Barbarossa, and Castilian and Leonese monarchs as of a little earlier in the 13th century. For someone who's been obsessed with medieval European history since, effectively, before I could read, was That a thing? ...Specifically in reference to relatively distant descent, as a Rasta might say, Selah. You get (as in, Get) to have different Versions of the 'One-Drop Rule.'

 

Massive thanks for your vote of confidence. ...Far as posting it, Weeeell, Eventually. The main worry is that, with the connotations of Robert Guiscard, and the Norman conquest of southern Italy and Sicily, I'm going to want to cite a Lot of historical context, just from what's easily available in English.

 

No, never heard of them....till now

 

Well, congratulations! The genetic relationships you find with other people are definitely real, although the estimates of the genetic distance between you and those people can be off for some populations. The ethnicity estimates should be taken with large grains of salt, since for the most part they're based on people's self-reporting about their ancestry, in terms of where their grandparents lived and their ethnicity. They would have to obtain DNA from large numbers of ancient and medieval skeletons in many different places to make accurate comparisons with the DNA of people alive now who form the databases of various countries. And any claimed ethnicity of a few percent or less should definitely be dismissed as statistical "noise."

Ethnicity estimates are considered more accurate only for peoples who are known historically to have been largely endogamous -- except for other ethnicities being introduced through non-marital events (voluntary or otherwise) -- such as, for example, Ashkenazi Jews, whose original ethnic makeup is a mixture of a majority of ancient Jewish ancestry with European ancestry from Italy, Greece, etc., and who were almost entirely endogamous from the Late Roman Empire (especially after Jews were prohibited from marrying Christians without converting) until the 20th Century, other than continued marriage with Jews from other geographical areas such as Sephardim. On the other hand, you really shouldn't believe any of these companies who purport to differentiate between different geographically close Gentile European peoples, who really aren't as genetically distinct as people think. As anyone who knows much about the history of migrations and geographical intermarriage should realize. You're better off with paper genealogy.

 

Thanks so much. It's been one of the most incredible journeys of my life. She truly is an amazing women and I'm as lucky as a chubby kid hearing that old tune coming from an icecream truck!
But I'm not so sure and saying we shouldn't believe that they can differentiate between any Gentile is pretty extreme and now I feel like I need to read more up on the science. I actually believe the opposite.
I was always told that I had a native American great or great great grandfather (which I always had a certain pride in growing up). Yet, 23 and me ruled that out completely for my full brother and myself.
And living in Utah, everyone here is obsessed with their lineage as the LDS church makes big bucks off it. Having old ladies like my grandma Edee, RIP, volunteering their lives to dig up and archive others ancestry is just one of many of their massive revenue streams.
Ps, where are the coins?

Pss, I hope @Roman Collector might take a look above and chime in, as now after searching AC search for an afternoon, I believe both listed Ant Pius are actually Marcus As. Am I nuts?? Don't answer the second question

 

I'm not saying that at all! I'm saying they can't necessarily distinguish very well between, say, ancestors who were German as opposed to French, who lived on one side of the Rhine or the other 500 years ago. They're not that genetically different. Native Americans vs. Europeans? Of course.

 

You also cannot delineate between gentile and jew 500+ years ago. Lets be completely transparent.

 

I'm sorry to be disagreeable. However, I do believe via our strands of DNA they can.
We've been able to trace humanity back to a single woman 150,000 years ago.
I may be in over my head but certainly believe that we can now tell the differences in us and our European ancestors.
Ps, still no coins. Post em up paalease

 

You're entirely wrong, and clearly don't know much about Jewish endogamy. They can trace the genetic relationships among all Ashkenazi ethnic Jews alive today to show that we all descended from a closely related group of several hundred people about 700 years ago, after the genetic bottleneck caused by the Black Death and the massacres thereafter. Whose descendants married each other over and over in subsequent generations. You can't do that with the non-Jewish European population, which was obviously enormously larger, and did not have common ancestry anywhere near that recently. It's also possible to tell when Ashkenazim and Sephardim diverged genetically, and when both diverged from Mizrahi Jews, etc.

But I'm not required to educate you. There are innumerable studies proving you wrong.

 

Marcus Aurelius, not AP.

 

There's really not much point continuing this, but there's a big difference between tracing humanity's MRCA (most recent common ancestor), and tracing approximately how far apart you are genetically from any living individual (or deceased person if DNA is available), whether your new-found sister or the most distant cousin -- all of which can be done, just as the approximate times that different species diverged from each other can be traced by DNA comparisons -- and, on the other hand, tracing exactly where your ancestors lived 500 years ago through DNA.

 

Massive thanks, @DonnaML, except, I Promise you, I've been around the block with all of this. A few times. ...Along with the innate limitations of the technology, at this point, there's the fact that 23&me and most of their ilk are businesses. One consequence being that, for each of these places, the individual genetic database they're operating from is proprietary. And correspondingly exclusionary, from one firm to the next. Summarily effecting a commensurately negative relation between 'science' and 'business.' As I like to say, in a world reeking of false dichotomies, this Ain't one of 'em.
The easiest case in point is the very first (...commercial) genetic test taken by the historian Henry Louis Gates, Jr. He scored 100% white. As he observed, the company was giving him the results they thought he wanted.
But more broadly, where anyone's operant genetic databases are concerned, the available information is going to skew toward Eurocentrism, on the basis of glaring demographic realities. More people of predominantly European descent are going to have the merely economic means to get tested, thereby contributing to any given, discrete (...and correspondingly woefully inadequate) database.
In my own case, the ongoing verdict from 23&me is wrong on other obvious levels. Back to your emphasis on documentary genealogy, they're still trying to tell me that my genetic composition is more German and French than British Isles. ...Well, Fine, Except. My dad is overwhelmingly of English descent, back to the 17th and 16th centuries (and selectively before), while my mom is mostly the same on one side, and German on the other. (Again with responsible documentation, based largely on primary sources --involving some serious documenatry fieldwork (is there such a thing? better believe) by an aunt, going back to the 18th century.) ...Is there some French? Saying That s--t. But more around the edges.
...Aggregately, my takeaway from this is that, in any number of contexts, just including this one, information Needs to be de-commodified. When it's not, there are immediate, often dire consequences, starting with the accuracy of the information itself.
...Yikes. As in, Big Yikey Yike. After a closer look, you said a Lot of this already. Your mention of the genetic industry was as bracing as your discussion (preliminary ...I wish) of the Ashkenazi was enlightening.
...Even 23&me is also assigning me residual descent from 'northwestern Asia' --this after other companies (and, yep, maybe them, at some point) gave me a (thank you, vaguely) comparable level of Ashkenazi descent.

 

My paper genealogy says I'm an absolute mutt, and this DNA map is ALMOST 100% in agreement with my paper genealogy. The main disagreement is that Ancestry.com distinguishes between "Northern Italian" and "Southern Italian" DNA. My paper genealogy demonstrates that the two Italian branches of my family come from Abruzzo and Apulia (Puglia), which are geographically in southern Italy. You have to have some skepticism about these DNA tests for "ethnicity."

 

Looks like Aurelius to me...

I say Provincial. (Antioch?)

Lot 87 is Trajan; lot 89 is Hadrian.

There were many unsold that might have been worth the money but is this a professional operation to encourage?

 

Well I am coming in friendship - with no animosity at all. However I completely disagree with this and will not fall for the propaganda. Anything 500+ years ago is pure speculation.

 

@Roman Collector, I'm looking at that map, and I'm saying, Love your Muttness.

 

Well, Except, that's Flatly Wrong.