DM Monogram silver coin

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by FreakyGarrettC, Mar 6, 2009.

  1. FreakyGarrettC

    FreakyGarrettC Wise young snail

    Toad helped me find this for my Mom because it has a M on it. So I would like to know what it is. :)
    Can any one tell me anything about it? I think it is french.
    Here is the listing. :eek:hya:
    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&item=140303341614
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    It says ARGENT on the edge...
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    Everybody says this but the pics really do NOT do this coin justice. It is beautiful in hand. :)

    BTW it looks like it says something underneath the baby closest to the bottom on the obverse. :secret:
     
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  3. FreakyGarrettC

    FreakyGarrettC Wise young snail

    Come on, I know someone here has to know something about these things. :)

    Edit: I just figure out that ARGENT translates to Silver from French. :eek:
     
  4. FreakyGsMom

    FreakyGsMom Member

    :bow: These pictures truly do not do this token justice. It is absolutely stunning in hand. I love it! Thanks to Garrett for getting it for me and Toad for helping him find it. Kiss :hug: The listing called it a 1700 French Jeton, does anyone know anything about these? Thanks :)
     
  5. mgChevelle

    mgChevelle AMERICAN

    Maybe try posting in the World coins forum page. You might get some answers there. I gots not a clue. Sorry.

    Ps. Sweet coin
     
  6. FreakyGarrettC

    FreakyGarrettC Wise young snail

    I sent Doug a PM asking him if he could move it but he is offline. If another mod sees this could you move it to world coins? :)
     
  7. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

  8. FreakyGarrettC

    FreakyGarrettC Wise young snail

    I found out the info I was looking for. :)
    http://www.coinarchives.com/w/lotviewer.php?LotID=574088&AucID=420&Lot=2105

    Pierre Joseph Lorthior, sculptor and medallist, was born at Lille in 1733, became Engraver to the King of France in 1776 and died in Paris in 1813. According to Forrar, Lorthior was author of a number of medals and jetons, also producing medallions and plaquettes "of elegant design and fine execution". He was "especially clever as an Engraver of seals and gaming counters, and produced some good work in gems". He is know to have engraved seals and signets for Marie Antoinette, madame la Dauphine, the duc d'Orleans and the comte d'Artois as well as for various other private individuals.
     
  9. FreakyGarrettC

    FreakyGarrettC Wise young snail

  10. diocletian

    diocletian Senior Member

    Nice looking jeton. I believe ( because of the ARGENT stamped on the edge ) that it's a re-strike. Right?
     
  11. De Orc

    De Orc Well-Known Member

    I do believe that it is a medal and looking at the mint mark on the edge produced sometime from 1974, that is a fish next to the word Argent is it not? If it is then it is the Paris mint mark, and they put the name of the metal on as well :D
     
  12. FreakyGarrettC

    FreakyGarrettC Wise young snail

    So is this not an original medal from the 1700's? It is a modern restrike? :confused:
     
  13. Luis

    Luis Senior Member

    There is a lot described in english and one described in french. Note that in the french it says that the year of the piece is 1727, years before Lorthior is born. However, it does say it's done by him. Maybe it's a typo, I dunno.

    I don't think diocletian is right. In the english auction it says that the edge has a cornucopia (so, not a fish) and "argent" (yes, silver in french).

    You have no proof that it's a restrike, but also no warranty that it isn't.
     
  14. diocletian

    diocletian Senior Member

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    Luis Senior Member

  16. FreakyGarrettC

    FreakyGarrettC Wise young snail

  17. Luis

    Luis Senior Member

    Do you agree that it was minted between "1880 and 1898, 1901"? It all points that way. So I wouldn't call it a restrike, unless someone knows if the french mint had used this Lorthior design before this time.
     
  18. Luis

    Luis Senior Member

    Just follow the links along the thread :D
     
  19. FreakyGarrettC

    FreakyGarrettC Wise young snail

    The original medal is supposedly from 1778. :eek:dd:
     
  20. diocletian

    diocletian Senior Member

    Unfortunately if the coin was made before 1841 there would be no "argent" on the edge.
     
  21. FreakyGarrettC

    FreakyGarrettC Wise young snail

    :desk:
     
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