Lights and grading

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by rzage, Mar 5, 2009.

  1. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    I glanced at an article about how different types of light affects how you see and how you would grade a coin , unfortunately I can't remember where I seen it . I know a 80 watt regular light bulb is good for general grading , but halide and fluorescent lights either bring out the hits or hide them , so please let me know of your experiences with different light sources and what you think of them , Thanks .
    rzage:thumb::D
     
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  3. borgovan

    borgovan Supporter**

    I use a full-spectrum lightbulb. Mine is a Tensor, but Ott-lite is good too.

    You can't see the proper color of a coin with a regular light.
     
  4. kanga

    kanga 65 Year Collector

    Correct.
    I use OTT-LITEs.
    Sunlight works too.
     
  5. Dollar1948

    Dollar1948 New Member

    The guy that wrote Coin Collecting for Dummies, claims he worked in a grading room at a certification company in which each grading station had a desk lamp with a 75 watt incadescent, and all the overhead lights were turned off.
     
  6. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    Personally when I go to a show if the dealer does not have a good light in the area I skip them just to make sure I do not miss something on the coin. I find at home getting it under one of my bright reveal lights really makes things come out. The dealer has good regular fluorescent lighting that I can see all of the coin under. Only for taking pictures do I use an OTT type light - seems to help, but I still need to work more at it. Just my opinion.
     
  7. snaz

    snaz Registry fever

    Well it seems all these opinions express what I would have said. But I don't mind sharing a story on the subject.
    I went to a coinshop in Edmonton, one of the few, when I walked in ( this is no exaggeration I swear) there was one flickering fluorescent light. One.
    Needless to say I didn't buy anything.
     
  8. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    In just about any article you can find, it is suggested that you use incadescent light bulbs to view and grade coins.
     
  9. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    Color corrected fluorescent lights (like an Ott light), which also happen to be diffused, are good for judging color of coins, but not optimal for judging hits/hairlines/strike and thus not good for grading.

    Point source lights (like incandescent, and even moreso halogen) are better for judging strike and hits/hairlines, and in general are better for grading. However their color cast makes them less effective at judging color.

    All IMHO...Mike
     
  10. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    I did - at the few coin shows I have gone to I have skipped sellers that do not have good lighting in the area. When I went to the last one downtown there were several sellers that had overhead lights turned out - yet no lighting for the customer. There were 3 or 4 sellers in that area - I skipped all of them and went to the first table with overhead lights. Now that I think about it that group of tables had very few people at them.
     
  11. bhp3rd

    bhp3rd Die varieties, Gems

    I use 3 60 watt bulbs

    I use 3, 60 watt bulbs one above the desk at 12 inches, one at 18 and one above all the others - I can see the pieces of dust inside the mint-mark on a cent. Now I adjust them accordingly but only use incandescent and run don't walk away from natural sunlight or fluorescent light source. I also only use 10x, 14x, 20x and 5x all bausch and loumb hasting triplets for all grading, searching and attributing - nothing else is needed for me.
     
  12. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

    I use ott lights...

    Some other dealers at shows call my lights "ugly lights" cause their coins all look ugly under my lights... I think its just their coins hahaha

    I think they really bring out any little hits or rubs..
     
  13. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    Makes you wonder what their coins really looked like :bigeyes: , But does anyone know of a recent article on lights and how the different ones bring out different properties in a coin , or Am I JUST GETTING SENILE:crying: and imagine this article .
    rzage:):hatch::hammer:
     
  14. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    Mike ,How big are these ott lights and are they battery powered to bring to a coin show ?
    Rusty:D
     
  15. zaneman

    zaneman Former Moderator

    I use two lamps spaced about a foot apart when viewing coins. A 20 watt halogen, and a 100 incandescent, clear bulb.
     
  16. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    What do they use at PCGS?
     
  17. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    No you are not - it seems to me someone posted a link on this board or maybe it was even on this board(I think it was a link). Where someone took multiple pictures of the same coin with a variety of lights and different settings. You could then see what the pictures of the coins looked like under the different lights. I wish I had book marked the site.
     
  18. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    Thanks I was really starting to think I imagined it , I thought it was an issue of the Numismatist , but failed to find it online .
    Rusty:):hatch::hammer:
     
  19. Thender

    Thender Senior Member

    For a coin show, you might want to go to yer local auto parts dealer and pick up a pocket pen light... Most are LED now and throw great light... I always have a pen light and loupe with me...
     
  20. spock1k

    spock1k King of Hearts


    thats all very good you two but what of the poor collector who cant find any of those :(
     
  21. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    A GE Reveal incandescent bulb with any old desk lamp is a good compromise between the two, and only a few bucks at Walmart.
     
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