Right side up OR upside down

I came across this when placing these two coins in an album. First picture is the two side by side, second pic both coins rolled upwards (feet over head) 3rd and 4th pics rolled left and rolled right. I believe with a U.S. coin if you rolled it upward from a heads up position it comes up in the correct tails position. That same quarter rolled left or right from the heads up position to tails position comes up standing on its head as does the 2Fr. coin but the 1Fr stays in the upright position when rolled either left or right. Is this only a U.S. approach to minting coins, or the one denomination of the FR type purposely minted this way or is this an error and all mints have the same basic ,for nothing better then words, rules for minting coins. If anyone could give me a web site, book name or the correct way to phrase for google I would like to learn other countries minting policies and how their policies and errors compare to ours if all mints do follow a basic set of rules.
Any help is appreciated and hopefully every one had a safe and healthy holiday.
Thanks
Wrexx

 

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Try Medal Alignment versus Coin Alignment.

 

+1

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coin_orientation

 

The two orientations are "medal", where it's both heads up (like you just won a medal, wearing it around your neck, and whichever way it's flipped, you can read it) and like most later Canadian coins and L/R to examine it. The other is "coinage" like most US coins, and some early Canadian) where it's heads/tails

 

This is why I referred the person to a source.
Ps. I tried to explain the difference to someone via Email and after writing paragraph after paragraph, I realized it would be easier for the OP to read and see examples by googling the topic.

 

Robert, Lawtoad and Bill
Really appreciate you all pointing me in the right direction. I hope you all have a great weekend
Wrexx

 

Both coins should be coin alignment. That would make your 1 Franc 180 degrees out of alignment and an error.

 

Is your ref. Krause?

 

Numista.
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces188.html

 

Swiss 2 Franc coins struck between 1968 to present had variable alignment
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces189.html
as did the 1 Franc also https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces185.html

 

That is for the moderns notice it says 1968 to 2020.

 

You are correct. I read the OP 2 francs coin as 1974 instead of a century earlier, lol

 

The US uses coin alignment (heads up/tails down) when producing coins and medal alignment (heads up/tails up) when producing medals.

Many, many years ago, I purchased a complete set of 1-5/16" Presidential bronze medals (Washington to Clinton) from the Mint, all of which were struck in medal alignment except Lyndon B. Johnson and George H. W. Bush. Both of these medals were struck in coin alignment. I can only assume that the person running the press at the time those medals were made was used to setting up for coins, not medals.

 

Another lesson learned today, thanks everyone.

 

I never thought of that...............

 

There are Swiss 5 franc coins minted in both alignments

 

Or MAYBE you had some ~rare~ Rotated Dies errors?

 

Since they are both rotated exactly 180 degrees, I'm inclined to believe that the hammer die was installed for coin alignment. Regardless, you are still correct that they both are Rotated Die errors.

 

If sent in to a TPG, would they agree? I wonder...

 

Without a doubt!