Roman Empire: billon reduced centenionalis; VRBS ROMA city commemorative, ca. 330-340 AD

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by lordmarcovan, Oct 19, 2020.

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How interesting/appealing do you find this coin, whether or not you're an expert? (1=worst, 10=best)

  1. 10

    7 vote(s)
    14.6%

  2. 9

    8 vote(s)
    16.7%

  3. 8

    18 vote(s)
    37.5%

  4. 7

    8 vote(s)
    16.7%

  5. 6

    3 vote(s)
    6.3%

  6. 5

    2 vote(s)
    4.2%

  7. 4

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%

  8. 3

    1 vote(s)
    2.1%

  9. 2

    1 vote(s)
    2.1%

  10. 1

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
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  1. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    OK, I finally edited the original post into a writeup matching my usual format. Please proofread my work and make sure I didn't make any goofs.
     
    lordmarcovan, Dec 28, 2020
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  3. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    The link to Wildwinds under the Sear number takes me to the wrong page there.
     
    Roman Collector, Dec 29, 2020
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  4. ambr0zie

    ambr0zie Dacian Taraboste

    Solid, attractive coin, 8 from me also.
    I have 3 examples of this coin, one from a time I wasn't collecting ancients, but just found it beautiful.
    The 2nd one is, in my opinion, very interesting, being a barbaric imitation.
    I just didn't understand the reverse (got it from a batch) and i kept looking for a Greek coin to match, but an experienced collector noticed it was VRBS ROMA
    Photos with its older sister.
    I really don't think this is an official issue.
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    ambr0zie, Dec 29, 2020
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  5. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    Thanks. I see I had that link going to the top-level Wildwinds page for all the city commemoratives.

    My edit isn't much better, though- now it goes to the top-level page for all the Wolf & Twin types. Since all the Siscia RIC-240 listings have but a single example shown, and I don't like linking to the description or photo of a single other coin (preferring to link to a page with pictures and text, not just one or the other), I just linked to the top level page where the list is shown.

    Is there a better way to do this? A better, more relevant page to link to? Would an ACSearch link be better, for example?

    Also, what about that officina mark before the mintmark? Is it an "A" (ASIS), or a delta (ΔSIS)? I see no crossbar either way. Because of that, it almost looks like a lambda (Λ) with horns to me, though I see no lambda-mark officinae listed. I'm guessing it's ASIS, and not one of the Greek-letter officinae?

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    These little details normally wouldn't be hugely important, since I do my writeups with a general rather than specialized audience in mind (i.e., not necessarily folks who collect ancients). But on the other hand, I don't want to have any errors in there to make specialists shake their heads at me, if you know what I mean.
     
    lordmarcovan, Dec 29, 2020
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  6. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    You could just link to the page for RIC VII Siscia 240 at OCRE.

    That's hard to say, but I'd go with A rather than Δ, because it wasn't uncommon to write A without a crossbar in antiquity and were it a delta, I think there would be serifs at the bottom two corners. It couldn't be a lambda, because that's the number 30 and there weren't that many officinae at the Siscia mint.
     
    Roman Collector, Dec 29, 2020
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  7. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    Thanks! Edited the reference link again.

    I didn't really think that officina mark could be a lambda, but that "A without a crossbar" thing had me scratching my head. The horned serifs at the top do make it look more like an A to me than a delta or a lambda, though, I guess.
     
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  8. Henry112345

    Henry112345 Member

    I voted for 10. It’s a beautiful coin with full Roman spirit !!!

    The story of her wolf is the root of all the great story of Rome , showing the incredible deeds of the brothers.

    The coin shows excellent patina and engraving , just perfect ,thank you for sharing it , love it .
     
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  9. JulesUK

    JulesUK Well-Known Member

    A high "8" for me. Lovely detail and what a great thread for expanding my knowledge of these commemoratives.
    I have only one VRBS which I picked up cheaply not long after starting into this hobby/obsession - just over one year ago!!
    I shall hopefully add more in time.

    8-VRBS ROMA TWINS Combo.jpg

    CONSTANTINE I AE Follis 17mm RIC VII Treveri 522
    Obv: VRBS ROMA Helmeted bust of Roma left wearing imperial cloak
    Rev: No legend, she-wolf standing suckling Romulus and Remus. TRS in ex
     
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    JulesUK, Dec 29, 2020
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