It’s not a vice job... but what?

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by playguitar, Dec 27, 2020.

  1. playguitar

    playguitar Member

    Yes I remember that, and it took a number of interactions before I could get to the bottom of it but then I let it go, what of it?
     
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  3. Seattlite86

    Seattlite86 Outspoken Member

    This is a deja vu moment. Everyone has told you this coin has been squeezed in a vice. This is easily replicable if you have a punch and can just randomly punch letters into a coin. The raised areas of one coin smash into the other and cause incuse spots. We've seen this so many times. Please look at some of the history of the folks posting here. We know what we are talking about, we are just short on patience for the amount of cognitive dissonance we encounter.
     
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  4. playguitar

    playguitar Member

    0D97A579-415B-48CE-A7FC-CB76CAE19F03.jpeg Ok, obviously when I try to explain the coin with words you all just get upset but I can’t get better pictures. If you look closely there are many words printed under other words that are undisturbed.
    That is my point. I simply cannot call this a vice job. I don’t need glasses and I am confused by all of your animosity. I will get to the bottom of it and send you all a receipt for my 50,000 eBay sale, but thanks for all the curmudgeon interactions just cause I want to find a more reasonable answer than vice job
     
  5. playguitar

    playguitar Member

    I don’t think it is cognitive dissonance and I do trust your opinion on every coin but this. I just don’t think it is a vice job, maybe it fell in to a coin press or something but it isn’t a vice job
     
  6. playguitar

    playguitar Member

    and the letters and numbers are raised
     
  7. Seattlite86

    Seattlite86 Outspoken Member

    Let's begin by clarifying that I have shown you zero animosity. I'm certainly not upset, though my emotional state has no relevance to the reality of this coin being PMD.

    You're just looking at someone smashing a coin on there twice. You're not understanding it, because you've blinded yourself by ruling out the only reasonable answer. When you remove the only logical answer, nothing makes sense.

    Regarding your belief that your coin has some sort of value, I will offer you this challenge:

    Submit it to NGC, PCGS, or ANACS and request error attribution. If it comes back as an error, I will personally pay for your submission fees and get each member here to apologize to you publicly. Should cost you about $100. The reason I offer you this challenge, is because I'm 100% confident it is PMD, but if you won't take my word for it, theres literally nothing left to do than to submit it to a TPG. It will be a complete waste of your time and money, but it will teach you to be more open-minded and attentive to other points of view. If it is an error, you get completely free attribution. Do you accept my challenge?
     
  8. Seattlite86

    Seattlite86 Outspoken Member

    No they are not, you're misunderstanding what you see in a scope you don't fully understand how to use. Those are incuse, you just need to understand what you are seeing in context to everything else in view.

    You'd trust me on every single coin but this one, but it's also definitely not cognitive dissonance, and EVERY single person here is wrong but you... :eggface:
     
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  9. playguitar

    playguitar Member

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  10. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    So, tell us mr. almighty know it all. Please explain how this cent was produced at the mint. Your answer must include all of the anomalies that just can't happen at the mint.
    Please let us know when you have an answer, until then I am done responding to a troll who won't listen to good advice and plenty over a hundred years of collecting knowledge.
    Your turn
     
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  11. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    There is no printing in the coin minting process :banghead:
    I'm not upset.. Just annoyed.

    Obviously a vise (or vice) job. Altered Cent.

    Your coin is not a Mint Error of any kind.
    If you list that coin on ebay only a fool would purchase it.

    - Mr. Ed.
    Specializing in collecting Mint Errors since 1985
     
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  12. playguitar

    playguitar Member

    I sure do
    so you are saying I am unable to see this 5 is raised above the “A” because I simply am unable to understand what I am looking at?
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  13. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Can you post a full picture of the Reverse side.
    Thanks.
     
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  14. playguitar

    playguitar Member

    Troll? How am I a troll? Because I think you guys aren’t actually looking but just saying it is impossible? Maybe it is pmd but not a vice that is impossible. I won’t be home till spring but I will put some pennies in vice and show you then. I’ve done the experiment and it doesn’t work
     
  15. Inspector43

    Inspector43 Celebrating 75 Years Active Collecting Supporter

    I'd like to see the full reverse also. I think we are dealing with two coins.
     
  16. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    Oof. This is 3 pages already. How many times can we smash our heads against a wall?
     
  17. Bradley Trotter

    Bradley Trotter Well-Known Member

    Asserting that this coin is an error contrary to the evidence is essentially saying that 2+2=5.
     
  18. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    #Fakenews
    #Alternatefacts
     
  19. playguitar

    playguitar Member

    This is the best I can do. The rim that goes through United is incuse, but the two “trust “ and 1975 d 539DCC79-E8F4-4D44-8DA9-DB2F1008621B.jpeg are raised up, I swear
     
  20. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    They are most definitely incuse. They are also reversed which is 100% indicative of a squeeze job.
     
  21. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    They don't look raised at all. I swear also! :depressed:
     
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