2012 P NICKEL

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by Jeff Callahan, Dec 26, 2020.

  1. ZoidMeister

    ZoidMeister Hamlet Squire of Tomfoolery . . . . .


    There are a LOT of things in this world that escape logical explanation. I try not to mangle my brain on most of them too much. I just accept the evidence as presented, as can be seen below.

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    These errors however, they're right up there with Sasquatch, alien abductions, and understanding wives . . .

    Z
     
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  3. Jeff Callahan

    Jeff Callahan Active Member

    Wow. I think I may have gotten more enjoyment out of reading all the comments my yellow arrows caused than any value I could have gotten out that coin! I love this site! So the coin is worth FV. I think I get it. Thanks guys. Maybe I'll just use yellow circles next time.
     
  4. Kevin Mader

    Kevin Mader Fellow Coin Enthusiast Supporter

    I think when it comes to photography, you have a nice head start. What the community needs is some direction from you. Let us know what you are looking at, perhaps what you think the issue might be, or other descriptive language to make your arrows more meaningful to the discussion...rather than the discussion. No worries on my end.
     
  5. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    Be sure to add a few stars and arcane symbols in there while you're at it. ;)

    You're good on the photography end, and willing to learn, and to take a few jokes at your expense. All good and useful traits.

    I look forward to seeing you post some of the stuff I just sent you. (Hint: it probably won't be on this particular CT subforum.)
     
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  6. Jeff Callahan

    Jeff Callahan Active Member

    I suppose with a combination of feeling a bit frustrated with posting multiple threads in anticipation of a find, which would be my first, and only to find out it was nothing, and my lack of knowledge on the subject together made me want to try something different with the arrows. Most of you guys know what you are looking for. Some of you have really tried to help me by sending me links to literature on the subject or pictures of various errors and varieties out there. While this information has really help me to progress in understanding what to look for, I am overwhelmed with how intricately how it all ties together. For example, with doubled die issues. I believe I understand more about how the manufacturing process can cause damage to the coin mechanically or through deterioration of the equipment used in the process. The problem is that the damage can happen anywhere on the coin and look so familiar with true doubling. Understanding that the doubling actually "transferring" to the planchet verses being caused by mechanical breakdown does help me but the minute differences are hard to spot on older coins and that is mostly what I have been looking at. It's hard for a novice to explain to someone who has figured it out. I will get it though. I promise I will. I appreciate guys like you who take the time to help.
     
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  7. Kevin Mader

    Kevin Mader Fellow Coin Enthusiast Supporter

    It is challenging at the start, but in a couple of months, you'll be in a much better position. Wexler's site is a really helpful site regarding what a doubled die is and the classes of doubling. I think that was an important area in my learning which helped to develop the eye on what to look for when searching coins. Understanding how a doubled die was created will help you to identify if the doubling you see on your specimen coin is real or false (e.g., MD, die deterioration, etc.). You'll get your first breakthrough find...then another...then another. You'll gain confidence as you go. And you might experience that feeling that you let something get away from you. Inevitably...you will. Don't lose too much sleep over that.

    Keep reading...ask questions...and keep the faith. You will find varieties.
     
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  8. ZoidMeister

    ZoidMeister Hamlet Squire of Tomfoolery . . . . .

    As you wish . . . .

    Z


    Landis Studios - 2020 Man on The Moon - obverse.JPG
     
  9. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

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  10. Danomite

    Danomite What do you say uh-huh

    [@Jeff Callahan,
    I think this is a DDR.
    http://varietyvista.com/04d JN DD Vol 4 UM/2012PDDR001.htm
    T
    his may not be the exact variety, but it appears close, it’s hard to tell from the photos. Let’s look at this from VV:
    upload_2020-12-26_22-50-54.jpeg


    Does it look close to your coin?
    upload_2020-12-26_22-51-46.jpeg

    A better photo of the full reverse would help a verification.
     
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  11. Jeff Callahan

    Jeff Callahan Active Member


    Hey Danomite. Thanks. The photo you found is a little blurry, but, I can still see a difference. Your example has straighter line than mine. I can see that. It looks like the "step" that a lot of the literature indicates would be machine doubling. No wonder I am confused. I must be reading it wrong or something.
     
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  12. Danomite

    Danomite What do you say uh-huh

    You have the coin in hand, all anybody can go by is what they see in the pictures... Keep up the search! Just remember that there may be die stages not listed yet. Also consider the minting process for coins you are looking at. Good luck in your hunts!!
     
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  13. Jeff Callahan

    Jeff Callahan Active Member

    I really appreciate your help!
     
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  14. ZoidMeister

    ZoidMeister Hamlet Squire of Tomfoolery . . . . .

  15. Kevin Mader

    Kevin Mader Fellow Coin Enthusiast Supporter

    Unfortunately, it doesn't look like there are established markers. But the general appearance is there...perhaps affected by a hit and/or stage as Danomite notes. Brian's site does not list this DDR so unfortunately, no marker information as a result. Post clearer pictures of the obverse and reverse (the one posted is blurry). Maybe something there to give a clue.
     
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  16. Jeff Callahan

    Jeff Callahan Active Member



    I owe you an apology! I am so used to being told that it's nothing when I post things, I thought that you were showing me an example of true doubling verses what I had. I am sorry about that. Thank you very much.
     
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