Guess the Grade - Isabella Quarter - Photo & Video

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by ddddd, Dec 23, 2020.

  1. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    The toning is attractive, but I see some dullness in the reverse fields in the video. I did not see the video of the obverse. I think the technical grade is MS-62, but it's probably in an MS-63 holder.
     
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  3. Pickin and Grinin

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  4. chascat

    chascat Well-Known Member

    65
     
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  5. Bob Evancho

    Bob Evancho Well-Known Member

    I might be a little strict on grading. The coin is well struck. That's a positive. Is the spot on the reverse environmental corrosion? What caused the chatter in the fields? Are the dark areas on the cheek bone cabinet friction? Was it lightly cleaned or rubbed years ago and has re-toned? On the reverse rim on the left are those minor rim bruises? Are there any minor scratches in the fields in front of either face? Strict grading I would say AU-58. Commercial grading MS-62.
     
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  6. Mountain Man

    Mountain Man Supporter! Supporter

    Nicely struck, and beautiful example, but those corrosion spots might have brought it down significantly. I'm going with MS62 with the possibility of 63. With the spots on the reverse being so strong in the field of vision, it was hard for me to see the rest of the coin.
     
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  7. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    There is an arrow on the side which allows one to move the screen (second screen has the video of the obverse).
     
  8. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    On the video link in my original post, clicking the arrow inside the circled part will move it to the obverse video.
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  9. COOPER12

    COOPER12 Well-Known Member

    I can still see it at MS-66 . 65 is lowest i think.
     
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  10. LRC-Tom

    LRC-Tom Been around the block...

    I'm in the 65 camp.
     
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  11. Dennis Misiak

    Dennis Misiak Member

    Going in a different direction....how about a Specimen PR65. I believe that they struck 104 proofs.
     
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  12. chascat

    chascat Well-Known Member

    I thought the same way at first look, but coin has too many hits.
     
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  13. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    Not confirming or denying, but a proof can have hits (or even be circulated).
     
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  14. CircCam

    CircCam Victory

    AU58, beautiful coin.
     
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  15. Publius2

    Publius2 Well-Known Member

    No matter how it graded, it's a lovely coin. But between the small but repetitive rim hits, disruptions in the fields, and what I perceive to be high-spot wear or at least luster break, I have to go with a very high-end AU-58. Given commercial grading realities, I think this coin got bumped into a MS-62 or 63 holder.
     
  16. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins Supporter

    '65
     
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  17. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    Last call before the reveal...
     
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  18. chascat

    chascat Well-Known Member

    Well then...if it ani't MS65, then maybe a PF62...Cant guess from pics...Happy Holidays!
     
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  19. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    Knowing some of my GTGs from the past, this might not be so surprising. :p
    I don't agree and plan to send it to NGC at some point in 2021. Luckily I didn't pay for the grading and bought the coin already in its current Details holder.

    I have been searching for a nice Isabella for several years and none have spoken to me until this one. The surfaces are PL (or close to it-at least semi-pl) and the color, while not monster, is appealing to me.


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  20. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    As far as proofs, Heritage has this tidbit:
    "Only 103 proof Isabella quarters were struck. These special strikings consisted of the first hundred strikes from the die, and were eventually followed by the 400th, 1492nd, and 1892nd coins struck. There are no published or known diagnostics for proofs, they simply "carry their own credentials" as Walter Breen used to say."

    From what I have read, the grading companies no longer certify any more proof Isabella quarters. And even the first 103 are dubious (more likely to be nice prooflikes as opposed to true proofs).

    See this thread for more:
    https://forums.collectors.com/discu...for-1893-isabella-quarter-proof-vs-mint-state
     
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  21. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    Complete Horse hockey. NO way that is a details coin, with questionable color. I’ve seen that toning pattern on many commemoratives before, and find it very attractive. It is a beautifully toned gem grade coin, with either proof like, or semi proof like surfaces. PCGS was insanely “questionable “ in the grading of this coin. Send it to NGC, after a good crack out.

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