My first die crack coin? Help?

Looks just like my 1885

 

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Nice die crack. Morgans are known for them. I'm sure a VAM collector could help you identify it.

 

Thanks . Oh is there a number for it? I’m guessing that means other 1921-D Morgan Dollars have that same crack?

 

@Gam3rBlake , not a Morgan, but here is a British pattern cent I have coming in with some insane crackage . . . . .

They can get pretty wild . . . . .

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YES. That means go out and find out! There are many 1921-D Morgans that are identified by die cracks, along with other criteria, for the die pairs...Spark

 

I have no idea where to even look . Even if I did there are probably thousands to go through.

 

Very nice! My crack line looks like yours only it’s shorter.

 

I'm not a VAM collector but there are plenty of members that are. When a Die develops a crack it grows in size as the Die is used. However there are numerous coins that will appear to have the same size crack in the same area. Yours will not be the only Morgan with a die crack in that area. Die cracks are common so there should be a VAM number assigned to that particular crack. All Morgans that have a similar appearance would be assigned that same VAM number.

 

Ah ok gotcha! Thanks!

Do you know if PCGS & NGC do any sort of labeling for die cracks? Like how they do other errors? Or is it just not noticeable enough?

 

Blake,
You’re in luck.
VAMworld.com has a guide specifically for ‘21-D Morgans.
http://ec2-13-58-222-16.us-east-2.compute.amazonaws.com/wiki/21-D_Die_Crack_Break_Guide

Or, if you post a clear pic of both the obverse and reverse, someone may help you identify it.
However, I suggest that you not wait and use the link above. If you really want to get into VAM’s, it will be fun matching your coin to one of the VAM’s pictured, along with a great learning experience.

 

I think this one looks closest but I’m really not that good at identifying this error stuff. Hopefully I got it right.

 

PCGS & NGC will attribute some VAM’s, but not even close to all of them.
You will have to identify the specific VAM before submitting your coin and pay an additional fee for the attribution. If your identification is wrong, they will not refund your extra fee.

 

Ouch! That’s a hefty chunk of change.
But it’s good to know the option is available. Obviously I wouldn’t send this one in because it costs more to grade it then the coin is worth but in the future it may come in handy.

Thanks

 

It may take some practice. The ‘21-D is probably the most common coin for Morgan die cracks. You may need a loupe to ensure you can view the die crack details. Also, there can be different stages of the same die crack.

 

One of our members, John Baumgart, @messydesk has a service for attributing VAM's.

Variety Slabbing Service (varslab.com)

 

Good call. I forgot about John’s service.
Blake,
If you don’t want to spend the time to identify your specific VAM, this would be the way to go.
Your choice. You can invest time (by searching yourself) or money (with Mr. Baumgart) to find your answer.
Good luck in your pursuit of VAMs!

 

Let me know if you have any questions about my service.

Regarding 1921-D die cracks, arguably they are why there is a VAMWorld today. Back in 2003, Rob Joyce and Jim Hart started chasing 1921-D Morgans with interesting die breaks in them and eventually published a book "Fun with 1921." As more people started looking for these, more were being listed in the VAM catalog, putting pressure on Rob, who didn't really want to go through to work to layout and print another book. In 2006, he set up a wiki to start keeping track of these and called it VAMWorld. It was hosted on Wikispaces until they went under in 2018, and now the new an improved version is self-hosted using an AWS cloud server with the popular Mediawiki and phpBB platforms.

 

Not sure if they do or not. You need someone to answer this that deals with them more than I do. Do another thread on that question.

 

Thanks for that! I took a look at the obverse, is this another crack? Or am I just seeing things now?

 

I just looked at the obverse and this looks suspicious.