Morgan dollar purchase

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Seattlite86, Dec 23, 2020.

  1. Seattlite86

    Seattlite86 Outspoken Member

    Hey Folks, I recently made a purchase of Morgan dollars based on the photo below. I'll share what arrived soon in my next post.

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  3. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    ok , I'll be here. If that matters . :zombie:
     
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  4. Seattlite86

    Seattlite86 Outspoken Member

    I first found the holed coin, which made me sad, but the 1891 CC has me trying to make sure these are all genuine. It’s been cleaned, but checks out for me. Please let me know if anything sticks out as worrisome.
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  5. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    I don't see anything that sticks out . JMO. Did you order Peace Dollars ?
     
  6. Seattlite86

    Seattlite86 Outspoken Member

    The entire purchase included Morgan and Peace dollars, mercury dimes, and kennedy half dollars. The 2 halves didn't arrive, and I'm wondering what happened. With the unexpected CC, I'm thinking I maybe let it go...
     
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  7. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    What year were the KHD's ?
     
  8. Seattlite86

    Seattlite86 Outspoken Member

    Both 1964. They were supposed to look like the two here:
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  9. masterswimmer

    masterswimmer A Caretaker, can't take it with me

    I'm no expert, but the raised mark above her eye gives me reason for pause. Was this date known for die breaks there?
     
  10. Seattlite86

    Seattlite86 Outspoken Member

    If you mean this, I think it is incuse and just a contact mark.
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  11. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    I would try to get what you ordered . Especially those KFD's. You paid for them, right ? JMO . That's what they should do.
     
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  12. thomas mozzillo

    thomas mozzillo Well-Known Member

    You paid for the Kennedys so you should ask the seller to send them. If they were my Morgans, I'd compare them to what's on Vam world.
     
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  13. Gam3rBlake

    Gam3rBlake Well-Known Member

    If I were you I would use a digital scale, calipers, and a magnet to check the diameter, width and weight to make sure they’re correct. If all those pass and it’s not magnetic there’s a 90% chance they’re legit.

    It’s pretty hard to make a fake silver coin without using actual 90% silver since the size will always be off or if the size is right the weight is off.

    Now if you really want to make sure you could always use a little acid on one (in a well ventilated area with proper eye protection) if you’re willing to make the sacrifice. Just take the lowest valued one and scrape it on a scratch stone until some shavings come off the side then use some JSP silver acid solution. You can buy it on Amazon for under $10.


    I bought a basic counterfeit detection setup for like $30 and it came with a digital scale, calipers, acid solution for gold & silver and cotton gloves and I always recommend it to collectors since most fakes can be detected with nothing more.

    Of course adding a Sigma Metalytics Precious Metals Verifier doesn’t hurt. xD
     
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  14. Seattlite86

    Seattlite86 Outspoken Member

    Thanks. I will certainly weigh it on a .001g scale in a couple days. I would like to kindly ask you to never suggest someone use acid to determine authenticity of coins. It is much easier to determine authenticity with weight, diameter, thickness, and knowing coin diagnostics. I feel pretty confident about its authenticity, but do not have access to my loupe and scale, so I posted here. Acid permanently destroys a coin that can otherwise be authenticated. Have a great evening!
     
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  15. Gam3rBlake

    Gam3rBlake Well-Known Member

    Well I never suggested using acid. I only suggested weight, diameter and width but I did mention that if those show it’s off then use acid.

    I mean let’s be real. If a Morgan Dollar is 3 grams overweight that’s far beyond tolerances and that’s when you would use acid. Obviously it’s not real if it’s that much overweight and the acid just confirms it doesn’t have any silver and takes it out of circulation. I’ve seen some counterfeits with 40% silver (they put a thick shell of silver around a plug of tungsten to trick the XRFs since they know a lot of XRFs can see through a light silver wash) and by using acid you can see if there’s any junk silver in the counterfeit coin.

    I hope all works out well and they’re legit.
     
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  16. Seattlite86

    Seattlite86 Outspoken Member

    A couple others from the group. All appear to be genuine.
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