New Flying Eagle Cent Piece by Daniel Carr!

I believe this scenario is highly unlikely. Because in the future, information should become MORE available, along with more tools to determine authenticity.
There have always been and will always be ‘opportunists’ in numismatics, willing to attempt to defraud an unknowing buyer.

 

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Anyone who wouldn't demand such a rare multimillion dollar find be graded by PCGS or NGC or take 30 seconds to google on their phone deserves what they get. Basically everyone has internet in their pocket now and that percentage will only increase in the future. Unethical dealers don't need carr pieces to rip off lazy/dumb customers they have plenty of ways to do that already

 

IMHO, he has the right to do it, I do not care for his work and I do believe that there are "dealers" that would try and push them as legit to the uninformed.
Semper fi and please stay safe.
P

 

Maybe -- but an unethical dealer always has things to market unethically. A coin with a nonexistent date would be a much heavier lift for a scammer than a 1909 VDB with an added S, a 1916 dime with an added D, or anything from the current Alibaba catalog.

 

That's insane! It was created to pass on information, nothing more! If you're interested fine, if you're not, then you don't have to look! Anyone who has seen and held his pieces knows they're not counterfeit at all, they're good but they are definitely not counterfeit! The ANA accepts Daniel Carr and that's good enough for me!

 

WRONG. I still use a "stupid" flip phone as I have no need for all of the bells and whistles the new phones have.

 

So because you have a dumb phone with no internet my statement that "Basically everyone has internet in their pocket now" is wrong?

Maybe if you had the internet you could look up what "basically everyone" means

I'll even shutdown future trolling attempts by saying basically everyone who would be old enough to be purchasing expensive coins in the western world of developed countries.

 

My, my, my. A little touchy today? LOL

 

Restricting or punishing future generations for what MIGHT happen is equivalent to prosecution in ADVANCE of a possible, yet to be executed, crime.

This line of thinking is the most dangerous thing yet in this thread.

And they are NOT exact copies. I suggest that you become better educated about the topic and stop parroting what other ignorant detractors have said.

Do your research. These are WELL DOCUMENTED over strikes of LEGAL US COINAGE.

Z

 

I guess it’s alright, I don’t really see why fantasy dates are such a thing.

 

Just responding in kind to the level of comment received in the manner it was delivered

 

BTW, there are still many different styles of fantasy strikes still available on Dan's site.

https://02f1517.netsolstores.com/index.aspx

Z

 

I've owned a couple Carr coins/tokens/whatever ...

I've looked at them as "art work" in a sense, whilst knowing the fine line between a forgerish thing and something else.

But I've also sold them when the market rose above my purchase price,
as mentioned, I identified them as artwork. And I really enjoy the originals moreso than a copy. This coin though, I look at as all the others showing the fine detail of a perfect strike coin (that I can't or don't want to afford).

I considered buying this but decided against it as I have a couple nice examples of the real ones ... so all is good.

This reminds me of all the copper and silver rounds that have coin designs on them. I actually prefer those as they are really inexpensive by comparison, though are only worth melt - luckily one won't lose much $$ though.

It's like saxophones .. I really want to buy a Selmer mk VI as all the copies look the same but actually are no where near the same.

 

I second Scuba4fun777. Short, sweet, and to the point... Thank for the post.

 

This is a subject on which no one is likely to change their view. I own a few Carr fantasy pieces and just bought the flying Eagle. I really don’t worry about these being sold as genuine, considering the purchase price, since fakes can be bought from China by the box car. That’s what we need to worry about. Carr is not part of that problem, IMO.

 

If it's fake, it is definitely a problem, no matter who make them IMO.

 

I thank you, sir!

 

This is why there is a thread on this site for Carr post. A wise man created that thread because of all the fights over the topic. CT turned into a war zone everyday before that thread was created. The hobby is split on the topic and always will be.

Those with anything negative to say do not post in that thread and there are no fights. It's that simple. Anyone that has been on this site for very long understands that.

I'm a big Carr fan from the day he bought the press and own several pieces of his work. He is a great artist.

With that said, my opinion changes with product like the topic of this thread. In the future it will be just as bad as all the China stuff that has done harm to this hobby. If it looks just like a real US coin, it will fool people in the future. Sure we can blame the buyer for paying stupid money for it but is that good for the hobby?