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Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by fishaddicit, Feb 20, 2009.

  1. fishaddicit

    fishaddicit Senior Member

    Think I may have a little more sucess with these type of errors. They seem to jump out easier. I'm not giving up on the Lincolns but needed to give the ole eyes a rest. So here's a couple from this evening. Any help would be appreciated. And I'm waiting on my Cherry picker book. First is a 1978 D. Everything seems larger and closer to the rim.Reason? Second is an 1981 P. The P seems "pushed" up and filled in. And then a 1993 P. Everything is off-center? Appreciate any help.
     

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  3. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    Coin #1: could be die wear.
    #2: just post mint scratch, and possibly a filled P.
    #3: MAD (misaligned die) unless the reverse is the same, then a very minor off center.
     
  4. jazzcoins

    jazzcoins New Member

    1) I have come across several coins like yours. The first one is very interesting . I have a question is the dime any smaller then a regular dime . I don't think that;s die wear since the elements are really close to the rim. i have seen one or two of these in the earlier years seventies and eighties. I don't know if it;s the way the design was intented for those years elements close to the rim. Look at the eight the way it;s merging with the rim against the rim that;s not normal for the design elements to be like that.The coin is out of perspective. questionable coin indeed.

    2 I would say that;s possible die deterrioration on the mm


    3) I would say a possble mis aligned die but nothing of significance because it didn;t take any of the elements out. I have serveral like these also


    Alien JAZEC
     
  5. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

    #1 is die deterioration and the mark is post mint.

    #2 is a slightly misaligned die.
     
  6. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    #1 shows die deterioration and it probably also shows the effect of a worn master hub. As the master hub was used year after year it slowly spreads and the devices get closer and closer to the rim. The best example of this can be seen in the Lincoln cents in the early mid 60's. If you lay out a 60, 61, 62 and so on through 68 you can see how the Lin LIBERTY slowly moves to the left until the upright of the L is merging with the rim. Then in 1969 the master hub was redone and you will see the L clearly separated from the rim. The same thing is happening here on your dime. The 8 is closest to the rim and can be seen to be climbing up onto the rim.

    #2 is the result of an overly energetic mint worker punching the mintmark into the die far enough to cause the "shoulder" of the punch to create a dent in the die surface. This dent causes the slight lump under the mintmark on the die.

    #3 is a slightly misaligned die.
     
  7. fishaddicit

    fishaddicit Senior Member

    Sorry for the delay, here's a comparision for the 78D on size. Seems a little small but not sure. This was just a random dime I picked. I grabed a handful and let my son pick one.
     

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  8. jazzcoins

    jazzcoins New Member

    I would say if the coin is smaller then a normal dime you may have a off metal coin. Here;s a rosie dime a off metal slabbed proof coin and a 1978 S Proof struck on a 10 sentimos phillipino planchet looks very close to your coin a good posiblity that it may be that . The strange thing about it the slabbed coin is also a 1978 S date yours is a 1978 D get the point. Now we no the s mint was minted in San francisco, and the d was minted in Denver, but they were minting bussiness strikes for other countries too get the point

    The mint minted for other countries in the seventies I would get your coin attributted it could be worth a nice premium slabbedi 1978 D struck on a 10 sentimos phillipino planchet I also posted a 1975 rosie dime struck on a 10 sentimos phillipino planchetslabbed and also posted a 10 sentimos phillipino coin the second coin down

    Alien JAZEC
     

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  9. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

    I agree with Conder %100.

    I don't see any indication that this piece is struck on any other planchet besides the one it was intended for...
     
  10. jazzcoins

    jazzcoins New Member

    Well you better look a little harder and examine the coin in detail I would bet my Whole alien ufo that;s a off metal piece look at the other slabbed coins i have posted and tell me and i will break it down in detail if you want me too So your telling me the slabbed coins are normal planchets too? here we go again Of course your going to disagree with me. your one of the followers

    Alien JAZEC
     
  11. cncman

    cncman Senior Member

    I was going to ask about a lincoln 1988 I found that looks close to the last roosie. It might be a MAD, the first thing that catches your eye is that the inside left side of the rim is wider than the right side, it looks flat and wide, the reverse is normal so it isn't off center, the obverse features are shifted slightly up and to the left, the L in liberty is touching the edge of the rim but is wrapped over the thicker edge, the "I" in in go we trust is also messed up because it is on the ridge, but if it was a MAD wouldn't the thicker edge be on the opposite side not the same side that the shift was? I will try to scan it later. Sorry to hijack but it is similar.
     
  12. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter


    It's obvious that you have not handled many off metal coins... You look at a lot of pictures that's for sure tho. The coins you posted are genuine off metal pieces, Im sure they weigh different, the color is a little off, and the details might not be as sharp. The coin posted only has mushy details at best.

    This coin is NOTHING more then die deterioration... I don't like to disagree with you jazz... but your always wrong, and instead of letting you spew your misinformation I step in and correct you because I have experience with these coins in hand and you obviously don't.

    I don't want your stupid spaceship, actually I wish you would hop in it and fly it away, far away.
     
  13. jazzcoins

    jazzcoins New Member


    How could you tell me i'm always wrong when i put a post up the other day about a die adjustment strike and you didn;t even kmow what it was you got it wrong I handled plenty of these too so you want to be persistant with me again you are totally wrong on this one as usually unexperianced in the field.

    Look at the coins i posted look at the coins i posted is that die deterrioration no way and you are lost in the field Lostducthman you admit it with your name LOST DUTCHMEN njuyt emjneu enhbeygte b hgeyte ebhgey
    your going to tell me to fly away look who has more post LOST DUTCHMAN
    Alien JAZEC
     
  14. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

    Hey, I will be the first one to admit when I make a mistake. But in this case, you are mistaken.

    I'm not gonna let you ruin another thread by arguing with you...

    Lets just see what some of the other people have to say.
     
  15. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

    Hey fish?

    Just for fun do you have a scale or some way to weigh the the dime on the top?
     
  16. jazzcoins

    jazzcoins New Member


    I'm not ruining your ruining it look at the big picture there;s one person that said the op's coin looks similar to the slabbed ones . Of course the others wiil agree with you and not me just for the sake of doing that because i;m JAZEC you know from where.

    alien JAZEC
     
  17. jazzcoins

    jazzcoins New Member

    The op already stated that the coin seems to looks smaller than a normal dime and that;s enough for me iije nbhe snbhe jneh e emnbeb ejnsd

    Alien Jazec
     
  18. jazzcoins

    jazzcoins New Member

    JUST for fun what kind of a statement is that, that proves you are not a serious collector this is not a game


    Alien JAZEC .
     
  19. fishaddicit

    fishaddicit Senior Member

    I do not have a scale but I'm on my way to a show today. I'll take it and let everyone know at least some local collectors ideas. Will post more info this evening. Thanks
     
  20. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

    Because weighting the piece would determine that what your saying is false.

    Whatever your trying to start with me is going to get you nowhere... sorry :)
     
  21. jazzcoins

    jazzcoins New Member

    you really don;t know what your talking about you proved it already about the die adjustment strike amateuristic assumptions lkijr njhr bhgry

    Alien JAZEC
     
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