Civil War Tokens

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  1. BJBII

    BJBII Metrologist, CSSBB

    I'm not a collector of Civil War Tokens, but I do have this one I think is pretty neat!
    1863 Union Forever Civil War Token F 173-272A ANACS AU-53 Obverse a.jpg 1863 Union Forever Civil War Token F-173-272A ANACS AU-53 Reverse a.jpg
     
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  3. STU

    STU Active Member

    i collect them have several hundre different ones
     
  4. STU

    STU Active Member

    i forgot i never post my coins ever have to much invested
     
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  5. COOPER12

    COOPER12 Well-Known Member

    I see this Odd Fellow token , what you all think? they say there still is some luster , its bright but looks almost uncirculated.
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  6. ksparrow

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  7. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder Supporter

    Higgins also made the "Primitive" tokens featuring the US Monitor. John Milton has a really nice one, mine looks like something scraped off the sole of my shoe!
     
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  11. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    I am having some trouble with the site I use to attribute CWT's.
    So I can only reference the obv die. LC13 Higgins liberty cap die 9
    Reverse is a Scovill's
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  12. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    That entire token was made by the Scovill Company. Scovill designed that liberty head and Henry Higgins copied it probably by pressing the Scovill token into soft steal.

    Here are the two varieties side by side. The Higgins copy, #9, is on the left and the Scovill piece, #10, is on the right. The Higgins copy always loses some detail. My token is especially weak because of the loss of detail and the fact that it's circulated down to a VF.

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    Here are both sides of the Higgins token, 9 / 431 a. The reverse of this piece was struck from one of Henry Higgins' own dies. It's an example of an Indiana Primitive.

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  13. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    I had thought I originally attributed it as a Scoville.
    Higgins must have copied it before the dies rusted?
     
  14. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder Supporter

    the reverse legend on the primitive makes me wonder if Higgins was familiar with Higley?
     
  15. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    There is no chance that Higgins had access to the Scoville dies. He used a Scoville token to make his dies.
     
  16. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    People have speculated that Higgins had access to a Higley copper which gave him the idea to use the “value me as you pleas(e)” phrase.
     
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  17. Timewarp

    Timewarp Intrepid Traveler

    I'm not a dedicated collector of CW Tokens, but will pick one up when I come across them at swap meets, etc. Here's 2 Patriotic I've purchased and 1 Store Card I found metal detecting.
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  18. Pickin and Grinin

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    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

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