Marc Antony Denarius in a coin collecting machine? (Repost)

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  1. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    I do not consider myself an expert and the good Lord knows I have made my mistakes. As stated, I do collect MA legionary coins and have around 35 or 40 of them in my collection. This does look to be a Legio XV, and to my eye looks legitimate. The weight is spot on for this series of coins. The edge looks very similar to many of my examples. Here is one of my examples of Legio XV to compare. I paid $56 shipped just this year. Leg XV 3.jpg
    MARCUS ANTONIUS
    AR Denarius
    OBVERSE: ANT AVG III VIR R P C, Praetorian galley, thyrsos behind prow
    REVERSE: LEG XV. Legionary eagle between two standards
    Patrae 32-31 BC
    3.19g, 17mm
    Crawford 544/30; RSC I 47; CRI 371
     
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  3. JimR_Coins

    JimR_Coins Member

    Appreciate your time and opinion!
     
  4. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    No problem
     
  5. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    What kind of idiot puts valuable Roman coins in a coin star
     
  6. JimR_Coins

    JimR_Coins Member

    Honestly don’t know, I also get loose jewelry, medicine pills, bullets, tokens, and world coins thrown in the machine as well lol
     
  7. Orange Julius

    Orange Julius Well-Known Member

    Reminds me of the 2016 news story where a coin collector’s son dumped his collection into a coinstar machine for drug money... getting like $50 for a 10k collection. Haha... ouch. It’s too sad to link but google it if you like.
     
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  8. Ryro

    Ryro Trying to remove supporter status

    These are the types of situations and coins I always think, what would @Barry Murphy or David Sear say?
    It is a beauty. Strange circumstances withholding, could any of these been placed in a coin star machine by an eccentric Forest type? Or is this just run off the mill shenanigans?
     
  9. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Kids.

    My aunts are only a few years older than me. When they were kids, they got into my grandmother's coin collection and bought candy at the store. I understand this happens a lot. (BTW, one of the cents was a 1909-S VDB.)

    Today, you have coinstars at Walmarts, and other places. No mystery to me.
     
  10. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Yup, it's part of the Circle of Numismatic Life. Being spent at face value or passed through a CoinStar is better than being thrown in the trash, or bulldozed and sent to the construction landfill.
     
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  11. Herodotus

    Herodotus Well-Known Member

    While the weight is in the correct range for this type, there are few things that make me 'take pause'* with this coin.

    1. This is a very popular type, and as such, it is one that is commonly faked. Therefore, I presume it is a copy until proven otherwise. Its discovery in a Coinstar machine, while not impossible, is still improbable... It is a coin, and as such, it could be conceivable that it may have found a home along with other modern coins in the abyss of a 'junk drawer'.

    2. The fabric/toning looks a little iffy to me in the first pic. This observation is more of a 'gut feeling' than anything else. Of course, it all could be related to the photograph/lighting etc.

    3. In the 2nd picture, the break in the beaded border occurs in the field rather than at the edge of the flan. Is this due to natural wear on the coin, or perhaps a weak die-strike? While the border is worn at the bottom, some faint traces of it can still be seen. For the (top-edge)border to abruptly go from sharp to completely non-existent is a big flag for me.

    4. In the 4th picture, there appears to be a line along the bottom of the edge. Is it evidence of a casting seam, or merely a reflection of light off of the rim?

    The coin very well could be authentic, but there is enough here that I would personally pass on the coin -- if it were being offered for sale. Remember, I've presumed that it's fake to begin with; until potentially proven otherwise for me to then have a higher-level of confidence in it being genuine.

    Considering that this is a found coin and not one being offered for sale, does the above help you get a definitive answer as to: "Yeah or Nay?". Perhaps not, but it's been a fun exercise for me in trying to determine so.

    *DISCLAIMER: I am not an experienced ancient coin numismatist, but I did sleep at a [FILL IN THE BLANK HOTEL CHAIN] last night.
     
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