Monster Toned Peace Dollar NT or AT

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Nt or AT

  1. NT

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  2. AT

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  1. goldrealmoney79

    goldrealmoney79 Active Member

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  3. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    I'm going to say NT
     
  4. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

  5. furham

    furham Good Ole Boy

    I wouldn't bid on it. And over graded IMO.
     
  6. serdogthehound

    serdogthehound Well-Known Member

    The colour do look strange to me. the Colour desigation is a strange one and from what I have seen not consistent(it is the most subjective details category after all). That it in a slab with a straight grade right now so no risk unless you crack out for an upgrade
     
  7. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    Naturally toned, but I think the toning is ugly. Pass.
     
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  8. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

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    Never in my life have I seen that color scheme on a Peace Dollar, I say QT for sure.
     
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  9. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Golly, wouldn't it be great if PCGS's cert verification gave you at least a thumbnail image of the actual coin, so you could see whether it was those colors when it went into the slab?

    I haven't looked at many heavily-toned Peace dollars, so I won't venture an opinion, I guess.
     
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  10. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    Possibly questionable but it passed muster at pcgs. So market acceptable. I like it actually
     
  11. longshot

    longshot Enthusiast Supporter

    I'm a little surprised that one passed.
    I certainly wouldn't have paid much over 20 dollars if I had found it raw.
     
    Last edited: Dec 14, 2020
  12. Long Beard

    Long Beard Well-Known Member

    Wow. The lengths people go for a very common date coin because of toning. Which is far from dramatic. Not this guy.
     
  13. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Just curious, what if you had seen 3 of them, or 10 - what then ?
     
  14. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    Coins from certain series typically follow certain color schemes. An atypical color scheme deserves a higher level of scrutiny in regards to the originality of the toning. An atypical color scheme on a Peace Dollar is almost certain to be artificial and should be treated as questionable toning.

    David Hall’s statement that all rainbow toned Peace Dollars are AT was hyperbolic but he was referring to coins just like this one. You asked me what if I had seen 3 or 10, my answer would be a question, over what time period? If I had seen this color scheme sporadically over years of searching toned Peace Dollars, the color scheme would no longer be atypical. If I found 3 or 10 of these all in a short time period, that would bolster the feeling that they were AT.

    My disclaimer is that these photos are really bad and the coin might not look anything like what we are seeing. That said, if this coin is blanketed in bright green and pink, the toning is invariably questionable.
     
  15. LA_Geezer

    LA_Geezer Well-Known Member

    Agreed! BTW my uncle was in the 101st, KIA Bastogne Belgium in early January 1945.
     
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  16. Millard

    Millard Coindog Supporter

    If the TPG didn't find it odd , then why question it? Are you concerned with it being counterfeit? Look up the TPG number. They often have photos attached. If you like it at that price then get it and be thankful for your good fortune.
     
  17. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Because it might have been gassed in the slab.
    Not this one.
     
  18. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    Because blindly accepting the opinion of a TPG is what the kool-aid drinkers do. The fact that PCGS straight graded this toned Peace Dollar has given it a measure of "market acceptability" that it doesn't deserve IMO. So while the toning on this coin has passed muster at PCGS, it hasn't met my personal standards, therefore I would never buy this coin at anything above spot silver. To me, this is a details grade common date Peace Dollar.
     
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  19. Mr.Q

    Mr.Q Well-Known Member

    I agree with Lehigh96, very well said. In my opinion, good luck
     
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  20. goldrealmoney79

    goldrealmoney79 Active Member

    @Lehigh96
    Once again thanks for the informational comments. I am learning lots from what you provide.

    @-jeffB what do you mean by gassed? First I hear of such thing
     
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  21. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    Ditto. Maybe it was "assisted" in the toning, but if it was good enough for PCGS, I reckon it would be acceptable enough for me, in this particular case. I kind of like it.

    Of course I suppose there is always the possibility that it was "gassed" somehow and toned after it was put in the slab, but if so, that was a talented coin doctor indeed, to have been able to pull off those relatively evenly-distributed, subtle, pastel-toned areas, without undue blotchy patches or a less attractive result.

    I voted "NT" in the poll, just as an admittedly wild guess. That turned out to be a tiebreaker- the poll is now 6 to 5 in favor of NT, as of this posting. Of course I don't really know for sure. It's hard to say.
     
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