Would Like Opinions on these two Lincolns

HI all,

I have two Lincolns that I would like some opinions on. I am interested in grade thoughts and what the spot on each coin my do to the grade, specifically from a PCGS point of view. You can click on the coin picture to enlarge it.

Thanks

1929 D Lincoln Cent

1919 P Lincoln Cent

 

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Nice coins!!!
Unfortunately copper has a nasty habit of getting "carbon" spots if anything gets on them.
And "carbon" spots always stick out like a sore thumb.
The surfaces appear to be original.
My Guess: You'll lose a point in the grade, but MS-64 (definitely) and MS-65 (probably) is what you'll end up with.
I don't think they'll bb them just because of the spots.

 

29-D Is that coin red or red/brown? I cannot tell for sure from your pics. Probably a 64, but might even be a 63. Spot free, it is a solid 64 with a shot at 65.

19- I would call that coin 64. On this one, I don't think the spot is large enough to affect the grade too much.

 

Both beautiful coins!

I don't understand why Lincoln collectors get up in arms about carbon spots. They are just a fact we have to live with and, believe it or not, I actually like a few small spots. Why? It shows the coins originality! So many Lincolns have been cleaned and dipped it's refreshing for me to see original surfaces and a couple flecks.

 

I'm gonna agree with the 64-65 assesment here. Have you thought about going thru NCS first then NGC?

 

Both should go a 64 RD, nice coins, and that 29-D is a screamer strike wise, wow.

You think PCGS detracts for spots? Look at the 64RD, yes it is my coin, and yes, I paid too much, luckily I totally ripped one from same auction and will just flip the costs to each other.

Dick, didn;t you just have a 29-D lowgrade at PCGS that tossed both of us? We were both expecting a sweetie but they banged it hard?

 

Do you know when the spots developed? Were they there when slabbed or did hey develop after it was slabbed?

 

Nice coin with or without spots

 

Thanks for your responses. I was thinking MS64 RD due to the spots, and unfortunately, maybe RB. Otherwise they are fairly nick/scratch free.

rlm asked about color. The color is a deep red, not yet brown though, but not close to bright red. I have several MS66 wheat lincolns and they are all brighter in color than these two, but then at one time I had a ms65 1909 VDB RED that seems MUCH darker than these two.

bsshog40, I had not yet given much thought about ncs

If I submit them, I will post the results.

Thanks