Trying to identify two 18th century European coins

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by NOS, Feb 13, 2009.

  1. NOS

    NOS Former Coin Hoarder

    I don't know much about these other than that they are both silver and date to 1758 and 1763. The first 'may' be from Holland and the second is probably from Austria. Any information would be greatly appreciated as to the denominations and the countries that these two beauties are from.
    Thanks,
    nos
     

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  3. Hobo

    Hobo Squirrel Hater

    I hope they are more genuine than the fake 1895 Morgan.
     
  4. bart

    bart Senior Member

    The first coin is a Dutch ducaton (silver rider), not from Holland, but issued by the county of Zeeland (COM. ZEL / shield of Zeeland benezth the rider).
    In Krause: Netherlands/Zeeland/Ducaton KM#57

    The second coin is a thaler from Hungary, issued in the name of the famous empress Maria Theresia. Around the virgin Mary the legends say: St. Mary, mother of God, Patron saint of Hungary.
    In Krause: Hungary thaler KM#358.1
     
  5. NOS

    NOS Former Coin Hoarder

    Thank you so much for the information, Bart! My Krause only goes back to the 1770's so your info is a big help. I will be sure to write your detailed information on the coins' 2x2s!
     
  6. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    The ducaton at least is not, it is also a fake.
     
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