The only coin anyone guessed the slab grade was the 32-D. I was not and still have some doubts that it would make 65. There is a nick on the brow which does not show well in my pics, but it is there. The 2 ICG slabs, no one guessed. The coin I agree with is the 39- In hand, that coin is every bit a 67. That is a well struck, nearly mark free coin. The 09- VDB is another story. It is in no way a 66. I actually think it has a shot (maybe slim) at a 65, but would guess it is probably a 64. Doug, you once stated "it was always my opinion that ICG was as good as NGC and better than PCGS - again during this time frame and only with non-modern coins." I cannot tell the date of these slab. Do they fall into that time frame?