guess the grade 1813 $5

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  1. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    The blow-up sure helps!

    I suspect that the light reflecting off this rim disturbance is making it look worse than it appears in-hand.
     
    Leadfoot, Feb 9, 2009
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  3. huntsman53

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    Doug,

    I agree with what you are saying about the grading due to the damage! However, I think that it is a file mark instead of a rim dent. It appears to me that someone filed off a section of the rim to see if it was 90% Gold all the way through or took to much off when testing the Gold in the coin for purity.


    Frank
     

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  4. zaneman

    zaneman Former Moderator

    NGC graded the coin a 62. The ding at 12 ocklock isnt nearly as bad as it appears in the photo.
     
    zaneman, Feb 9, 2009
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  5. Bedford

    Bedford Lackey For Coin Junkies

    Here's my lesson for the day ..... DONT DRINK & GRADE. I split a a bottle of wine with the Mrs. Saturday night when I gave my opinions on these coins. LOL !

    BTW all are great pieces.
     
    Bedford, Feb 9, 2009
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  6. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator


    If it had been a file mark, and then are easy to see that they are file marks in person - the coin would never be slabbed. And it's not an adjustment mark either, those are always across the face of the coin, either obv or rev.

    Either way, truly surprised they gave it a 62.
     
    GDJMSP, Feb 9, 2009
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  7. huntsman53

    huntsman53 Supporter**


    Doug,

    I just don't see how a drop on most surfaces would damage the rim and leave such a noticeable indentation which is lower than the rest of the damage! Besides, from the pictures, it appears that there are file marks (striations) within this lower, indented area.


    Frank
     

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  8. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    I think what you are seeing is the remains of the reeding Frank. And yes, dropping a gold coin like this can result in such a dent.
     
    GDJMSP, Feb 10, 2009
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  9. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    I agree. You see very similar marks on Large Cents, too, and I've even had the pleasure of imparting just such a mark by dropping a large cent on a tile floor. :eek:
     
    Leadfoot, Feb 10, 2009
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  10. 900fine

    900fine doggone it people like me

    How sad. I've seen otherwise marvelous coins eliminated due to heinous adjustment marks.

    Why didn't they file the planchets tagential on the rims, where the atrocity would be less noticable ?
     
    900fine, Feb 10, 2009
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  11. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Because the coins were money - not collectable items. They didn't care what they looked like - just that the weight was correct.
     
    GDJMSP, Feb 10, 2009
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