Coins with fractional and mixed number denominations

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by The Eidolon, Jul 23, 2019.

  1. benveniste

    benveniste Type Type

    I think someone else already did this one, but...

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  3. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    Just in from Roma Auctions/ won it yesterday.

    EL Myshemihekte (1/24 Stater) 11710.2.36_1.jpg ND (600-550BC)
    obv: forepart of Tuna
    rev: Quadripartite Incuse square
    Ionia/ uncertain City State
     
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  4. robp

    robp Well-Known Member

    A 1773 halfpenny struck on a spread flan. Base metal coins of this period were struck on a flywheel press without a collar, so the eventual diameter was a combination of force used and how soft the metal was. An interesting aside on this coin is the old ink writing. Basing House was a Royalist supporter's residence and was involved in 3 sieges during the Civil War, with the last one in Oct. 1645 terminal. It's possible this coin was in the collection of a numismatist who was also researching Charles I coinage. The presence of random inkmarks to both sides suggests it may have been under a piece of blotting paper for a while.
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  5. coin_nut

    coin_nut Well-Known Member

    1942 South Africa half penny

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  6. messydesk

    messydesk Well-Known Member

    Hildesheim 1601 1/24 Thaler
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  7. messydesk

    messydesk Well-Known Member

    Salzburg 1669 1/4 Thaler
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  8. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    Hispania
    Visigothic Kingdom
    Suintila 621-31 AD
    Barbi Mint
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  9. robp

    robp Well-Known Member

    An angel was valued at 6 shillings and 8 pence. That's 1/2 a merk (used for accounting) or 1/3 of a pound
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  10. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    Thats a nice coin. I have none.....yet.
     
  11. robp

    robp Well-Known Member

    It's quite a good grade, but the obverse is horribly rusted and the flan is a bit small, though good weight. The reason I have it is because it marks the crossover point in the type between cross pommee lance head and crosslet lance head. The coins chronologically before this did not have the horizontal lines protruding beyond the balls, and after this lose the three balls which are replaced by a small cross on each cross arm, hence the term cross crosslet. It's just the one die that exhibits this feature. I think there's five known.
     
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  12. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    I had my target on that MS-64 Henry VIII Angel/ but she went very high. A UK "EF" Angel would be nice/ their EF is way nicer then slabbed 64.
     
  13. talerman

    talerman Well-Known Member

    Your detailed knowledge is as impressive as always !
     
  14. The Eidolon

    The Eidolon Well-Known Member

    Denmark, 1852, Frederick VII, ½ Rigsbankskilling
    Or 1/192 Rigsbankdaler, if you prefer.
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  15. robp

    robp Well-Known Member

    Hammered coins and slabbing don't mix well. There seems to be a predominantly American desire to give everything an absolute number - and you can't with hammered because there are just too many variables. Double striking happens more often than not. Sometimes the detail is on flan, at others not. Sometimes you get flat areas on an otherwise well struck up coin. When all this goes into a slab you often find the number tail wags the dog. A Charles I shilling in Goldberg made $1200 because it was in a 62 slab. Over here it would have been in the trays at £100-150 max because it wasn't a particularly good example of a typically poorly struck issue. Basically, you are just as well off raw as slabbed, with the added bonus of it usually being cheaper. Buying raw is no different to buying the coin and not the slab.

    Maybe there is a bit more gold to come from the Chris Comber collection in Baldwins St. James's if you want anything of Elizabeth I. He was the right collector for the material you want.
     
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  16. robp

    robp Well-Known Member

    Thank you.

    Better add to the fractional thread. An Edward VI half sovereign.
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  17. robp

    robp Well-Known Member

    And something more mundane - a 1956 farthing (quarter of a penny). The last year of issue and demonetised in 1960.
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  18. coin_nut

    coin_nut Well-Known Member

    1853 GB farthing, a pair of them. Which one should I keep?

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  19. serdogthehound

    serdogthehound Well-Known Member

    161764F3-3D53-4FFC-AFC6-17E549350D2D.jpeg 36BAC61A-FD16-4AE0-8403-C35226776122.jpeg And arguable piece but was legal tender in Canada at $4.86 2/3 so I say it counts
     
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  20. coin_nut

    coin_nut Well-Known Member

    I almost forgot about this one. 1855 Netherland Indies AR 1/20 gulden 1855 NI 1-20 g obv.JPG 1855 NI 1-20 g rev.JPG
     
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  21. robp

    robp Well-Known Member

    It looks like both are WW raised (there is also a WW incuse) on the truncation, so keep the top one. There's less detail on the bust but the surfaces are much nicer. If you want a better one, it won't cost much as they are common.
     
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