1984 d ddo

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by fishaddicit, Feb 1, 2009.

  1. fishaddicit

    fishaddicit Senior Member

    OK Here we go again. It doesn't look like machine doubleing/damage to me (as stated before still a novice). Seems to be an indention/depression above date and another bubble" above right of the four. So I guess my question is ..Is it a DDO and what is the depression from? Clog die maybe? As always I appreciate any info from the pros.
    Mark
     

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  3. TheNoost

    TheNoost huldufolk

    I don't think it's doubled die. If it is, I've been throwin' 'em back :(
     
  4. ziggy9

    ziggy9 *NEC SPERNO NEC TIMEO*

    The doubling is due to a shift in the plating, a type of machine doubling.

    Richard
     
  5. fishaddicit

    fishaddicit Senior Member

    Hey Ziggy...what about the big depression above the date?
     
  6. TheNoost

    TheNoost huldufolk

    it matches the reverse.
     
  7. fishaddicit

    fishaddicit Senior Member

    Noost..you need a reverse pic?
    I couldn't tell any issue on the reverse
     
  8. fishaddicit

    fishaddicit Senior Member

    Here's the reverse
     

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  9. TheNoost

    TheNoost huldufolk

    no, an overlay of the reverse onto the obverse would show that the depression is in the shape of the building on the reverse. Can't recall what this is called. Search Mike Diamond posts. Die deteriation transferrence someting I think
     
  10. andy21us

    andy21us Coin Hoarder

    I agree, most true doubling has a shelf or a ridge line on the numbers or letters.
     
  11. Digenes

    Digenes Just a collector

    Are you thinking about a Die Clash TheNoost? I am not sure on this one, but to my untrained eye it may well be. You can see the basic outline on the both the reverse and obverse of the die, just that you can't see any detail. So it may be a well Late Die Stage Die clash.. I hope that is the right terminoligy for it.

    Dave
     
  12. Arizona Jack

    Arizona Jack The Lincoln-ator

    Machine doubling at best. A true 84 DDO will have the 2nd earlobe
     
  13. TheNoost

    TheNoost huldufolk

    no, I'm looking into it.
     
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  15. fishaddicit

    fishaddicit Senior Member

    How's the show going Jack?
     
  16. Digenes

    Digenes Just a collector

    You may be 100% correct TheNoost. I can't tell if what I am looking at inside the red line is embedded or raised. If itis raised then I agree with you, if embedded then I would wonder.

    Dave
     

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  17. fishaddicit

    fishaddicit Senior Member

    to the left of the line is embedded . To the right is flush as a normal cent.
     
  18. Digenes

    Digenes Just a collector


    Could you post a photo of the entire Obverse of the coin. I am far from an expert on this, but hopefull either Mike Diamond or Foundinrolls can weigh in and give their opinion on it.

    Dave
     
  19. fishaddicit

    fishaddicit Senior Member

    ok how bout these?
     

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  20. Digenes

    Digenes Just a collector

    Maybe I am just seeing something that is not there. As far as the doubling on the date I will agree with everyone else that it is machine doubling as far as what I thought or think I see as to a die clash, I will just have to let Mike or Foundinrolls give their opinion. I tried an overlay but had to rotate the reverse to have it fit.

    Dave
     

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  21. fishaddicit

    fishaddicit Senior Member

    That is so cool. How in the world did you do that?
     
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