14 d

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by fishaddicit, Jan 28, 2009.

  1. rockdude

    rockdude Coin Collector

    The mint marks were added by hand, so they could vary in their position under the date.
     
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  3. Arizona Jack

    Arizona Jack The Lincoln-ator

    It's iffy. I do not like the shape of the mintmark, and position is not an indicator on these, they are all over the place. I will NOT ( lol ) try do make a determination on a pic, nor would I buy from a pic alone.

    Could go either way.
     
  4. fishaddicit

    fishaddicit Senior Member

    How would I go about getting it verified? I'm not a member of any club and would hate to have to spend registration, shipping and process fees on a fake. Guess I should just join but not sure who. Any suggestions.
    Thanks,
    Mark
     
  5. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    There has got to be a dealer somewhere out there. Take it to them.
     
  6. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    Anyone have an image of a 14 D in G to VG? Something large and in focus would be really cool.
     
  7. Arizona Jack

    Arizona Jack The Lincoln-ator

    I have 3 on my site, VG,F and XF.....but no macros. I'll TRY tonight to get better shots posted here:smile
     
  8. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

  9. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    There are two thinking alike.
     
  10. Arizona Jack

    Arizona Jack The Lincoln-ator

    Oh, I have 4 on my site, you know more than I do Rlm, lol. One of those was sold and I forgot to take it down. Thanks for the reminder !
     
  11. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    Mike, this may be elementary, but how do you "add" a D? This one's nice and strong, too.
     
  12. bqcoins

    bqcoins Olympic Figure Skating Scoring System Expert

    Funny fish, your photo (the tilted D, the distance from the 9, etc.) looks exactly like the photo on p.46 of Shane Anderson's "The Complete Lincoln Cent Encyclopedia" except his is in a much higher grade. The coin looks authentic to me, even if it is only a G-4 specimen.
     
  13. Arizona Jack

    Arizona Jack The Lincoln-ator

    You can form one by digging away around the " mintmark", you can add one with adhesive, and you can emboss one which requires drilling into the rim from the side and plugging.

    1914-D's have many many MM positions and rotations, but there is ONE shape. Shape can be damaged and altered by wear, circulation, etc etc. It is near impossible to judge a LOW grade coin by a pic if done well, who knows what may have happened to the coin as it wore and circulated.

    The other variables used are known diecracks and gouges, polish lines, etc. I would never try to guess unless I had the coin in my hand under my loupe or my scope.
     
  14. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    The way I have heard is to literally cut one off another coin and glue it on a 1914- coin.
     
  15. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    I wanted to do some checking on my own so I haven't posted in this thread. Today I did it, below are the results. Can't say as I see much wrong myself.
    OP's coin on the left, known genuine coin on the right.
     

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  16. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    I'm thinking of a jeweler working on the movement of a pocket watch. You know how they have those glasses with the loupe attached to one of the lenses? I suppose with the right equipment and skills a thing like that can be done! Sill, though, this one does look real good to me.
     
  17. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    It can absolutely be done. Jack related the various ways of doing it. And if you didn't understand what he was meant by embossing - that is done from the inside out.
     
  18. Arizona Jack

    Arizona Jack The Lincoln-ator

    Exactly Doug.

    What raised my redflag was the double seriff on the D, thats why I explained damage. Circ wear, etc etc, on LOW grade coins can be a factor. Yours is obviously a high grade coin with much less chance at alteration of the mintmark by natural causes.
     
  19. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

    I vote with Mike
     
  20. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    I hadn't read Jack's reply when I replied but skipped past it to the reply directly to me. Next time, Jack, I'll read your replies, even if they're not directly to me. ;)

    EDIT: Jack, you'll have to excuse me. On that nonsensical reply above, you did answer my question, but for some reason I blew right past it. Having one of those days... :rolling:
     
  21. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

    it would have to be a heck of a dealer...
    not your everyday stray cat with a BM shop.
     
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