1982 snowman

So, ..who wants the infamous "snowman" Caused enough a stir I figure it should go to a good home.

 

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send it to jazzcoins

 

TOO funny.

 

Thanks for popping that zit, fishaddict. The tension in this thread was driving me crazy.

 

Nice try that really looks good i guess you brought that into photo shop I don't see any evidence of a pop young one, :bigeyes:yea why don't you send me the coin so i could examine it and the truth will be known I will have a cool pitted die.

Jazzcoins Joe

 

Bill is right, as usual. The 1982 cent shows blistered plating, which is quite common on zinc cents, especially in the first few years. One of the larger blisters has popped, as several commentators have observed.

By contrast, pitted or rusted dies are unknown for recent Lincoln cents. A pitted or rusted die would leave sharply defined, irregular bumps on the surface of a coin, not bumps with soft borders. And none of the bumps would pop.

Jazzcoins created the same problems on the CONECA message board as he's doing here -- disseminating inaccurate information with great zeal, great frequency, and a stubborn refusal to accept the right answer.

 

Yes, let's get the terminology straight here.

"Die break" is a non-specific term for any form of brittle fracture that leaves a void in the die face.

A "die chip" is a small die break with no connection to the rim.

An "interior" or "internal" die break is a larger die break with no direct connection to the rim. There is a subjective and undefined rubicon between die chips and interior die breaks. My personal rubicon is 4 square millimeters, but I'm not dogmatic about it.

A die break that incorporates the rim and at least a little bit of the field is called a "cud". The vast majority of large die breaks are cuds. Alan Herbert uses the term "major die break", but this is unworkable. You should never, ever incorporate an adjective denoting size or magnitude in any term, especially if there is no relationship to size and magnitude. Many "major" die breaks are trivial in size. All of Herbert's terms for die breaks suffer from the same problem. For example his "large die break" is actually a small die chip. So I don't use any of his terms.

A die break that involves only the rim gutter of the die is called a "rim cud".

A die break that affects the collar is often called a "collar cud". There are about six subtypes.

A "die crack" is just that -- a crack in the die face. No metal is lost and no void is created. Most die cracks show lateral spread, which leaves a ridge on the coin. Some die cracks show vertical displacement, leaving a "step" on the coin.

 

I didnt create any problems BJ was the one that caused the problems in coin com ---- y as well as your site ,and he is not there any more in coin com----y and I had nothing to do with it t and i'm sorry about that I guess they saw him as the problem so i have no idea of what your talking about .

Well maybe if you think a little bit why can;t it be posSible that there is one or two or three or four or five etc etc that are out there in these partcular cents they are on the Canadian cents as i pointed out already

I will not be rude here but don't tell me that i'm causing a problem this is a forum and i could state what ever i f eel as my opinion on any subject and you keep on saying false information frequently and you are totally wrong and so is found in rolls. Just because he has credentials doesn't mean nothing to me he could be wrong as well as you could be wrong.

I apologize to the monators in this wonderful forum that i don't kmow why i'm being targeted / These false rumors that they are saying are totally wrong about frequent misinformation go through the threads and let me know what frequently is


I apologize for this mishap
Ps and Mike you are calling me a name and that is against the forum rules which you have deleted a fathead of that nature
jazzcoins joe

 

Is there any possibility that you could be wrong?

I'm probably three times your age and I'm wrong on many things. Of course, when I was your age I, too, knew everything and was wrong about nothing.

Give it up Jazz. Your intransigence is unwarranted. I've fought the same fight you are fighting here and have been overwhelmed with contrary evidence and opinions. It didn't necessarily change my opinion but I'll save my energy for the next difference of opinion.

"He who fights and runs away, lives to fight another day."

 

Thank you very much david you happened to be right with what you are saying right I will give up the fight for now as you suggested I don't no if you know the exstent of this whole issue leading up to this and the whole story involved, and I will not get into it Just read this post from the beginnig then you will get the facts, and that still isn't the whole story.


Thanks david
Jazz

 

davidh
you can't be three times his age, he is 54.

Jazz
you now have the opinions of three people that know what they are talking about, you have photo evidence to the same effect and yet you still insist that you opinion is the right one. this is exactly what mikediamond claims you did on the coneca site. You start by saying "it wasn't me" and then proceed to do the exact same thing. If you insist that you must be right in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary then your credibility goes right out the window.

Richard

 

I'm sorry that should have been "he's at least 54"

Rather than accept the facts you would rather accuse the OP of doctoring the photo just to make you look bad. Those are facts I do have and its more than enough for me to judge wether or not you are acting like Mikediamond described, even if i wasn't there.

 

Believe me, I have read the entire thread. I wouldn't think of commenting unless I had a full grasp of what had been said.

I am assuming that jazzcoins is a young person, not only because he said so, but mainly from the way he (mis)uses the English language and grammar. His typing and language style indicate a young person who grew up with texting shortcuts. It doesn't jive with the average older, worldly and more experienced persons who tend to use more formal communication styles. I was born before WW2 started; he was probably born around the time Desert Storm started.

 

I also suspect that he is much younger than the 54 stated but was merely giving him the benefit of the doubt since he previously stated that he started collecting when he was 14 and has 40 years experience in numismatics. Perhaps where he is from years are shorter than ours.

He also states that he has "retired" from working in jazz music.

Richard

 

More likely he started when he was 14 and has 4 years experience. Or maybe there are dog years involved...

 

woof!

 

The stuation was totally different then what Mike Diamond is describing and what happend here and on the other forum so your evidence is not concret until you no the facts.

I would like to know why they decided to let BJ go and keep me the so called unknowledgeable collector because his attitude was off the wall So what do you say to that one Ziggy 10 I an not acussing the op but the evidence is not good enough from a photo to determine what the specimen really is you could rampal on Ziggy as mush as you want, But it's pretty clear on who was the culprit in the other forums and rolls ain't any better with his approach either.My age is in the hundreds
Peace to you Ziggy 9
Jazzcoins joe

 

is this your breed

Jazz